1861 Census Lookup Please

[VICTORIA]

Hi, can anyone help me searching for Herbert Wheller born 1860 Huish Episcopi Somerset England. 1861 Census record please. Any help appreciated.
Victoria

[MaureeninNY]

He's listed on Ancestry as Herbet W Wellin   1630/23/13


Maureen

[MaureeninNY]

Just in case-here's Family Search:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M76N-PQY

[VICTORIA]

Thank you so much. I looked at Census returns and Census image. Found it confusing. Daughter Martha listed as age 37 UNMARRIED Housekeeper for head of house her father William Wellin/Wheller who was age 63.
William Wellin age 20 son of William age 63.
Mary Wellin age ? 10 or 18 granddaughter
Sidney Wellin 16 grandson
Winford Crossman 5 grandson ( who was born Curry Malet Somerset
Herbet Wellin 1 grandson
What I find confusing is Census returns say All of grandchildren are children of Martha UNMARRIED daughter of William age 63.
Also census record for William Wellin age 20 say Martha is his mother.
I have found name and record of wife of William Wellin age 63 ( widower ) in 1851 and 1861. She was Anna Wheller who was born 1801 burial date 16/06/1845.
Any help appreciated
Victoria

[Dundee]

What I find confusing is Census returns say All of grandchildren are children of Martha UNMARRIED

Also census record for William Wellin age 20 say Martha is his mother.

Which census returns show that they were all Martha's children and that William is her son?  The relationship in that column is only to the head of the household.

These children all appear to be illegitimate.

WHELLER, MARY  ANNA
No mother's maiden name indexed
GRO Reference: 1842  D Quarter in LANGPORT  Volume 10  Page 409

WHELLER, SIDNEY  JOHN
No mother's maiden name indexed
GRO Reference: 1845  D Quarter in LANGPORT  Volume 10  Page 408

WHELLER, HERBERT  WALTER
No mother's maiden name indexed
GRO Reference: 1859  D Quarter in LANGPORT  Volume 05C  Page 478

To see who the mother of Winford was you would need to purchase the certificate.  If it was Martha then by the way it is indexed it appears to have a father named.

CROSSMAN, WINFORD  WHELLER      
Mother's maiden surname: WHELLER      
GRO Reference: 1854  D Quarter in LANGPORT  Volume 05C  Page 449

Debra 

[Dundee]

Baptisms indexed on FamilySearch show that Martha was the mother of Mary, Sidney and Herbert.

I think that Winford may have been ennumerated twice, once at home with his parents and again visiting his grandfather.  Not uncommon with children who were visiting other family on census night.  His mother's name is something like Athabar/Athalia?  Was she Martha's sister?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M76K-1TP

Debra 

[VICTORIA]

Thank You Debra, I wonder who the father of her children were ??
I will keep searching. Much obliged
Victoria

[DRH123]

FreeREG has the baptisms at Huish Episcopi of

Mary Anne, b.25 Oct 1842, bapt. 24 Jan 1847
Sidney John b. 16 Sep 1845, bapt. 24 Jan 1847
Herbert Walter, b. 16 Feb 1851, bapt. 22 Apr 1857, buried 19 Jun 1857
Herbert Walter, bapt. 21 Dec 1859
and, rather oddly, Ruth, b 2 May 1842, bapt. 23 Sep 1866

all children of Martha Wheller, singlewoman.

There are some notes attached which may be of interest.

David

PS. Martha's father was Walter, not William.
She appears to have married a widower Henry Thorne in 1868.

[VICTORIA]

Thanks for the help, much obliged.
Victoria