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Re: Lynch family St Johnstown- place name
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 21:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks Hallmark, the only thing I know for sure is the sons name was Hugh Lynch, and he is likely to have been born in St Johnstown around that date- I only saw the one Hugh born in the records of All Saints.  The parents first names might have been different.

So you don't know who you are looking for?? A Hugh Lynch but which one??
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Re: Lynch family St Johnstown- place name
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 21:06 BST (UK) »
That is a strange one- the extract records his baptism but as you say there is no recorded birth noted for him?


No State Registration for that Hugh!!  Not unusual!
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Re: Lynch family St Johnstown- place name
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 21:09 BST (UK) »
Indeed, I know he moved to Derry by 1911 and died there some time after that.  I have the names of his children and his wife- Bella Lafferty.  I dont know his early details though.  He was a butcher in St Johnstown in later years
Gillespie- Glasgow
Hutton- Glasgow
Lynch- St Johnstown and Derry
Bradley- Derry

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Re: Lynch family St Johnstown- place name
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 21:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks for putting me on to that site Hallmark, I have just found his marriage lines and his dads name was John, not Hugh
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Re: Lynch family St Johnstown- place name
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 31 July 18 21:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks for putting me on to that site Hallmark, I have just found his marriage lines and his dads name was John, not Hugh

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Re: Lynch family St Johnstown- place name
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 01 August 18 09:54 BST (UK) »

I think one needs to allow a wide tolerance on the birth year in this case, the 1888 marriage registration shows that Hugh was 30 (a suspiciously round figure?) while the 1901 census shows his age as 35:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1888/10775/5929719.pdf

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/St__Johnston/St__Johnstown/1197021/

You mentioned that Hugh had moved to Derry by 1911, what age was he in the 1911 census?


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Re: Lynch family St Johnstown- place name
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 01 August 18 10:15 BST (UK) »

... You mentioned that Hugh had moved to Derry by 1911, what age was he in the 1911 census?


I see in a previous topic that dathai highlighted the following folk in 1911, the head of household being 69 year old widowed Hugh Lynch a potato dealer (not a butcher... and the jump in age was commented on):

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_Urban__2_/Lecky_Road/602443

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=698506.0


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Re: Lynch family St Johnstown- place name
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 01 August 18 10:49 BST (UK) »
Here are a couple of civil registration records for you to consider...

Firstly, the death registered in Londonderry in February 1919 of a widowed Hugh Lynch with a reported age of 55 and occupation of 'Potatoe Hawker', the informant was his son Daniel Lynch, in particular, note the address of death - 17 Donegal Place:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05161/4423259.pdf

Secondly, the marriage registered in Londonderry under a year later in January 1920 of a Hugh Lynch to Sarah Quigley, the groom's father stated as Hugh Lynch a butcher - note the groom's address:- 17 Donegal Place Derry:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1920/09259/5351967.pdf

Dathai's 1911 census potato dealer is looking like the same man as the 1901 butcher and cattle dealer.  If so, (notwithstanding that the 1911 census age may have been inflated due to the introduction of the Old Age Pension), then Hugh's age is simply all over the place.

In a roundabout way the point I'm making is that, in the circumstances, you might want to seriously consider the following baptism for a Hugh Lynch baptised in All Saints RC parish on 27 March 1853, parents given as John Lynch and Margaret Harkin (top of next page):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000631911#page/32/mode/1up   

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I can also see a marriage in Londonderry for a Daniel Lynch and Elizabeth O'Donnell in 1922, the groom's father given as Hugh Lynch a butcher, the groom's address as... 17 Donegal Place.
 

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Re: Lynch family St Johnstown- place name
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 01 August 18 11:10 BST (UK) »

... In a roundabout way the point I'm making is that, in the circumstances, you might want to seriously consider the following baptism for a Hugh Lynch baptised in All Saints RC parish on 27 March 1853, parents given as John Lynch and Margaret Harkin (top of next page):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000631911#page/32/mode/1up   


There are quite a few children listed for John Lynch and Margaret Harkin, stretching from Hugh baptised in 1853 to Catherine born in 1875, for example, here is the latter, the address is Carrickdawson townland in the civil parish of Taughboyne:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03114/2142223.pdf
 
And again from All Saints RC parish, the marriage of John Lynch and Margaret Harkin on 19 February 1852 (bottom of following page):
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000631911#page/95/mode/1up