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Offline CaroleW

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Re: Janet Bertram - who were her parents?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 02 August 18 23:55 BST (UK) »
I think you need to take a good look at the info you have given

SP shows GILBERT Dempster and Janet Bertram had a child in 1759??

Peter Dempster & Janet Grieve had children from 1798 which would have been a miracle if Janet was born 1733 ???
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Re: Janet Bertram - who were her parents?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 03 August 18 06:26 BST (UK) »
There are some Garvald records on FreeREG and I noticed that on some Peter is down as Patrick*

EG;
JANET Dempster Bapt 20 Jan 1803, Parents PATRICK Dempster and Jane GRIEVE
Father a Weaver


PATRICK Demster
Christening: 13 October 1754 Garvald
Birth 29 Sept 1754
Parents;Gilbert DEMSTER/Janet BERTRAM
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Re: Janet Bertram - who were her parents?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 05 August 18 23:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks to all for your replies.  I have taken your advice Carol and gone back to the beginning and looked through all my paperwork and compared against what I have been given and what has been given here.

Patrick sometimes Peter Demster born 29/9/1754 Garvald freereg and familysearch
Janet Grieve born 21/2/68 Prestonkirk freereg
They were married 16/4/1797 Garvald SP
His parents are shown as Gilbert Demster and Janet Bertram

Janet Bertrim baptised 15/7/1733 SP
Parents shown as William Bertram and Helen Brotherstons

It looks as there might have been confusion because of the different spelling and interchangeability of names and two Janets.

Something had been niggling away at the back of my mind and it finally came to me today.  I remembered that I had been in touch with Sam Bertram who very kindly sent me a spread sheet of the Bertram surname in Scotland and he too had the same parents for Janet as I had.

Do you think I can take this as correct rather than John Bertram and Mary Dods otherwise a lot of research will go down the tubes.


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Re: Janet Bertram - who were her parents?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 06 August 18 00:10 BST (UK) »
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Do you think I can take this as correct rather than John Bertram and Mary Dods otherwise a lot of research will go down the tubes.

Are you absolutely certain that the Janet Bertram you are researching was born in 1733?  If so - then her parents appear to be William & Helen nee Brotherstone

If she was born earlier than 1733 - she could be the 1728 birth to John & Mary nee Dods

SP shows another son - Alexander - born to Gilbert Dempster & Janet Bertram in 1759

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