Birth Registered Twice? - Just Curious!

[Ray T]

Curious to know why the birth of James LONGSON appears twice on the GRO Index?

Q4 1856. Same District "Hayfield"(7B -a small village in Derbyshire). Same Page - 547.

Other than an error, all I can assume is that that there were two Longson children born in the same quarter and named "James". I appreciate "James" was a common name in those times but it seems a bit of a co-incidence for such a small place. (They're the first two people on the index page)

Edit: - looking at the "Derbyshire Registrars Birth Index" transcript (FindMyPast) they also have consecutive numbers - GB/24/025 and 026.

?-Unexpected wins and they couldn't decide on a name to they gave them both their father's-???

[nanny jan]

I had a look at the new GRO Births index which shows the mother's maiden name...…..both give it as Marsland.

Brothers/cousins marrying 2 sisters?   

[louisa maud]

I know that in 1940's there is a registration for 2 births, every detail the same except the name of the child, and no they were not twins, when I spoke to the mother, a relative, she told me the father had also registered the child, I wasn't sure when if one on was registered in the nursing home and one at the register office but there was not twins born, for fear of being to nosey I didn't question any further, I wish I had

Louisa Maud

[AntonyMMM]

All you can say is that the indexes (especially the one on FindMyPast)  say these are two separate entries - you would need to get both certificates to see why.

Re-registrations are quite common, and account for most examples of "multiple" entries for the same child - nothing indicates that is the case here.

I suppose it is possible there was something wrong with the first entry, and the registrar completed another one (rather than making a correction tot he first), wouldn't be the right way of doing things  ...but strange things do happen.

[louisa maud]

I have no idea why, yes , strange things do happen

Louisa Maud

[[Ray]]

Hi
A recent email on similar subject from GRO . . . . .
If the parents were present and unmarried GRO would create two entries     


However there seems to be 2x marriages '52 / '54     
Marsland / Longson and Longson / Marsland     
maybe they were mixed up by whover entered them into the register.     

Ray

[trish1120]

Looks to me that it may have been reg twice.

I presume you have these?


1851 Census
James Longson   29
Fanny Longson   29
John Longson   8
Mary Longson   4
Fanny Mairsland   72 Mother in Law

1861 Census
James Longson 40
Frances Longson 38
John Longson 18
James Longson   4 born Glossop****

Only 1 Baptism on FreeREG;
16 Nov 1856 All Saints, Glossop
JAMES Longson Son of JAMES/FRANCES
Abode Littlemoor
Father a Warehouseman


1841 in Stockport, Cheshire
James Longson   20
Frances Longson 20

James and Fanny married 1840 reg Stockport

Looks to me that this is James Snrs Baptism;
5 December 1820, Mellor, Derbyshire
Parents JOHN/HELLEN
Siblings christenings;
SAMUEL 6 June 1813
JOHN 26 March 1815
ELI 10 Nov 1816
ROBERT 22 Nov 1818, buried 3 June 1832, Parents John/Ellen
(Familysearch.Org)

And likely their Marriage;
7 Dec 1812, All Saints, Glossop
John LONGSON, Bachelor
Ellen MELLOR, Spinster
Witnesses, John Longson/James Mellor

Trish

[AntonyMMM]

A recent email on similar subject from GRO . . . . .
If the parents were present and unmarried GRO would create two entries     

... that would be a single entry in the register, but indexed twice (under each parent's name), this seems to be two entries.

[KGarrad]

Curious to know why the birth of James LONGSON appears twice on the GRO Index?

Q4 1856. Same District "Hayfield"(7B -a small village in Derbyshire). Same Page - 547.

Hayfield may be a small village, and parish, but the Registration District of the same name is much larger!
In 1856 the RD included the parishes of:
Beard Thornsett Ollersett & Whittle, Disley, Glossop, Hayfield, Ludworth & Chisworth, and Mellor.