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Alice Winn b Jun 1868 New York m 1890 Charles Robertson Gray b Jun 1856
« on: Saturday 04 August 18 13:51 BST (UK) »
The above married in 1890 according to US 1900 census Buffalo Ward and are together on 1905 too but after that he disappeared, Alice is in Toronto, Canada 1915 as 3 of their sons joined the CEF and passed away there 1916,17 and 18. What a tragedy for them all. At 1921 Alice was at 640 Bathurst St, Toronto West, with son William Auld b 18 Feb 1899 and daughter, Carrie born c. 1907.
Alice then disappears. William m Alice Maude Cole 9 Jun 1924 Cuyahoga, Ohio and had a son James Alwin Gray b 14 Jul 1928 shown on 1930 census at Cuyahoga Falls. Found all 3's b and d's but am missing James Alwin's wife (he was a widower in 1978) and children if any? Also if William and Alice Maude had any more children?
Carrie Gray m George Buller Holland ( b 15 Apr 1900) 2 May 1925 York, Ontario, Canada and they emigrated to Michigan, USA 23 Apr 1927; then he was naturalised but both disappear after that date?
Quite a lot of mysteries here especially the original parent's passings?
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Re: Alice Winn b Jun 1868 New York m 1890 Charles Robertson Gray b Jun 1856
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 August 18 14:42 BST (UK) »
There is a 1906 article in a Buffalo paper about a Charles R. Gray who committed suicide and left a wife & 4 children - https://www.newspapers.com/clip/22485552/charles_r_gray_death

Might that be him?

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Re: Alice Winn b Jun 1868 New York m 1890 Charles Robertson Gray b Jun 1856
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 August 18 14:54 BST (UK) »
I suppose it could be him but if daughter, Carrie was b 1907 could be a problem?
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Re: Alice Winn b Jun 1868 New York m 1890 Charles Robertson Gray b Jun 1856
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 August 18 14:55 BST (UK) »
Also if William and Alice Maude had any more children?


Cleveland Press
 Aug 11 1956

Gray, Alice M., loving wife of William A., mother of James A., and grandmother, sister of Mrs. Bertha Moir, Mrs. Sadie Brown, Miss Elva Cole of Toronto, Mrs. James King of Harrison, Ark., Mrs. Flva Blake of Nashville, Tenn., Friday, Aug. 10, 1956. Her home was at 13506 Fourth Ave. Friends may call at Chas. Melbourne & Sons Colonial Home, 12777 Euclid Ave., where services will be conducted by Dr. M. Wayne McQueen of Windermere Methodist Church, Monday, Aug. 13, at 1 p. m

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Re: Alice Winn b Jun 1868 New York m 1890 Charles Robertson Gray b Jun 1856
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 August 18 15:11 BST (UK) »
I suppose it could be him but if daughter, Carrie was b 1907 could be a problem?
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Looking at the image for 1921, it says Carrie was age 16, so seems that her birth would be around 1905.

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Re: Alice Winn b Jun 1868 New York m 1890 Charles Robertson Gray b Jun 1856
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 04 August 18 20:10 BST (UK) »
RJ------

James A may have died 4 Apr 2006--an obit in the Cleveland Plain Dealer, 6 Apr 2006, sec B, page 6 may give the name of his spouse.  I don't have access to this newspaper.
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Re: Alice Winn b Jun 1868 New York m 1890 Charles Robertson Gray b Jun 1856
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 August 18 23:46 BST (UK) »
Marriage of James A:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G16K-9XZD?i=1344&cc=1614804

James A's death record states he was divorced.

I think she is still alive??

James's wife listed in  the 1949 marraige record got remarried. Her father's obit in 1983 and her sister's obit in 1985 has her listed as Jxxx Byrne of Solon, OH.

Public records: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJB7-1ZD8

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Re: Alice Winn b Jun 1868 New York m 1890 Charles Robertson Gray b Jun 1856
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 05 August 18 10:40 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for your great research. I suppose Charles R Gray senior could have committed suicide while Alice was pregnant with Carrie, she was 18 at her marriage in 1925 or maybe she was already born, pity we can't find her birth record?
Still have no record of Alice Winn's passing, and whether Carrie and George had children and when
George and Carrie passed away?
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