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Re: Thomas Fry born abt 1835
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 07:52 BST (UK) »
Their Children were:- Sarah b. 1859
                                John W b. 1860
                                Moses b.1862
                                Ner b.1866
                                William Archibald b.1866
                                Charles b. 1868
                                Eliza     b. 1870
                                Joseph b. 1872
                                Wiley b. 1875
                                Frederick b. 1878

all born in the USA
                               
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Re: Thomas Fry born abt 1835
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 10:28 BST (UK) »
Looking at the order of names, John & Sarah appear to be the most important...

? Does his marriage certificate give his father's name.


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Re: Thomas Fry born abt 1835
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 11:18 BST (UK) »
No Marriage Cert as yet.
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Re: Thomas Fry born abt 1835
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 15:39 BST (UK) »
There is a Tree on Ancestry (not sure if it's your friend's)

Headstone photograph says, he was born 4 September 1835

His parents were: Thomas FRY - and Ellen CLARKE - whom Thomas
married 4 April 1843,  aged 42 - Liverpool St Peter Lancashire

This tree lists all the various USA Federal Census from 1860 and Iowa Marriage Records


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Ancestry

Marriage at St Peter's Liverpool, Lancashire

Thomas FRY, Widowed,  (father: John FRY)  Marriage date: 4 April 1843 : Ellen CLARKE


Liverpool St Nicholas, Catholic Baptisms

24 September 1843  - bap 26 January 1845

Helina FRY ....Thomas et Helina FRY...  Clarke (copy)


Joannes FRY - same parents - born 11 May 1842, bap 11 September 1842


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This looks possible


Ancestry: Transcribed as FOY

1841 CENSUS, Lancashire, Liverpool, Islington, District 3 Page 23 of 24

FRY

Thomas - 40 - Plasterer - all born in County
Ellen - 27
Thomas - 7
Elizabeth - 5
Eliza - 2
John - 7 MONTHS  ***


General Register Office Index: 

FRY John, J Qtr Liverpool, Volume 20 - page 382 - mother's maiden name CLARKE

It would appear Thomas FRY married Ellen CLARKE in 1843 - after 'some' children were born and were a Catholic family.

Not sure if the tree on Ancestry is correct as there is a baptism at St Nicholas, Lancashire, of

Thomas FRY - birth date 19 April 1834 baptism date 2 may 1834

parent: Thoma FRY and Ellena CLARK




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Re: Thomas Fry born abt 1835
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 16:07 BST (UK) »
Yes, that's her Incorrect Tree.
 Just suggested to her to delete her Thomas Fry marrying E Clarke as her Thomas Fry from Gloucester only connection with Liverpool was that he sailed to New York from there in 1853 unmarried.

 My Thomas Fry marrying at St Nicholas's Church  E. Clarke and all his Liverpool Family got mixed up in her Tree.
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Re: Thomas Fry born abt 1835
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 07 August 18 16:17 BST (UK) »
Can see the copy of the original baptism on Wiley FRY - 28 December 1875 - and yes it does state Thomas FRY was from Gloucestershire.


Thomas FRY date of birth 24 September 1835

There is a Christening at North Cerney - 8 November 1835 (very often children were christened within weeks of their birth) parents: Thomas & Elizabeth

1841 Census Gloucestershire North Cerney -
District 4, Calmsden

Listed on Ancestry as TRY

FRY

Thomas - 40 - Slater
Elizabeth - 25
Elizabeth - 18
George - 11
Jane - 7
William - 7
Thomas - 5
Mary - 2


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Is the Christian name of NER a clue

There seems to be a Thomas FOY marrying Elizabeth NALE - and a Thomas FOY - marrying an Elizabeth NEALE -


Banns on Ancestry

Thomas FRY of this Parish (North Cerney) and Elizabeth NALE Spinster of this Parish of Sherborne

banns read: 1, 8 and 15 March 1829

and previously


1851 Census, North Cerney

FRY

Thomas - 49 - Slater, born North Cerney
Elizabeth - 39 - born Sherborne
George - 21
Jane - 21
William - 17  **
Mary Anne - 11
Dinah - 9
Edwin - 6
Elizabeth FRY - Niece - 20 - born Fairford

No sign of Thomas


** Gloucestershire Genealogical Database

1850 : William FRY, North Cerney, Plough Boy, Goal (Also on Ancestry, found not Guilty)

1837: Thomas FRY, North Cerney/Calmsden, labourer : Will  : states his wife is Sarah, and has daughters, Sarah, Mary & Ann - son is THOMAS

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Baptism at Sherborne, Gloucestershire 23 June 1811

Elizabeth daughter of William & Elizabeth NAILE

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Thomas FOY of the Parish of North Cerney - Elizabeth NEALE - banns read March 8, 15 and 22, 1828