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William & Frances Elvin 1881 Census - Help
« on: Wednesday 08 August 18 14:34 BST (UK) »
Good Afternoon

I am looking for William and Frances Elvin, but cannot find them in 1881 Census

1871
William is aged 35 b Reston married
Frances is aged 35 b Louth they have the following children
Jane N 14, Sarah 12, James 7 and found in Grimsby.

1891
William is deceased
Frances aged 54 Head and there is a child called Emma b Grimsby aged 16 again found in Grimsby.

Can anyone find them in 1881 - all help appreciated.
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Re: William & Frances Elvin 1881 Census - Help
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 15:52 BST (UK) »
All births listed Louth, plus 1 child Edwin born 1861 but possibly died in infancy, all listed as Wilkinson mother's maiden name

Emma born circa 1875, there are 2 births registered nearest this date
1874 Lincoln MMN NOT Wilkinson but TURNELL
1875 Caistor no MMN

Still working on 1881

Louisa Maud
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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
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Re: William & Frances Elvin 1881 Census - Help
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 16:08 BST (UK) »
Supposition on my part at the moment

Is there a possibility that William died in Caistor, is so there is a death of William 1884 aged 47 Caistor which reasonably fits in with age on 1861 and 1871 and if that is the case Emma born Caistor 1875 with no maiden name might well be the child of possibly Frances and William Elvin, why no maiden name?

Louisa Maud
Census information is Crown Copyright,
from  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes

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Re: William & Frances Elvin 1881 Census - Help
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 16:47 BST (UK) »
Hello Louisa Maud,

I do believe that he died in Caister, and then buried in Cleethorpes, the 1891 C gave Grimsby as Emma's place of birth, I just double checked the census and it gives Grimsby Lincolnshire.
Wilkinson was Frances's maiden name.


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Re: William & Frances Elvin 1881 Census - Help
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 16:55 BST (UK) »
Good Afternoon

I am looking for William and Frances Elvin, but cannot find them in 1881 Census

1871
William is aged 35 b Reston married
Frances is aged 35 b Louth they have the following children
Jane N 14, Sarah 12, James 7 and found in Grimsby.

1891
William is deceased
Frances aged 54 Head and there is a child called Emma b Grimsby aged 16 again found in Grimsby.

Can anyone find them in 1881 - all help appreciated.
Regards
Moo

The name rang a bell, so I checked and have a William Elvin married to Francis in my partner's tree.

Do you know who his parents were? and I'll see if they match.

I have census info etc for our William, and will pass as much as I can on to you.

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Re: William & Frances Elvin 1881 Census - Help
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 17:03 BST (UK) »
Hello LindseyC

Williams parents were Thomas Elivn and Eliza Wilkinson Holloway married 1855.

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Re: William & Frances Elvin 1881 Census - Help
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 17:12 BST (UK) »
Found a 1901 Census

With Frances aged 64, Widow, Grimsby Lincs, born Louth, with a Granddaughter Emma aged 24, dressmaker born Grimsby, and a great Granddaughter Eva Elvin aged 5 living in what appears to be Fraser Street.

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Re: William & Frances Elvin 1881 Census - Help
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 17:19 BST (UK) »
That's them!

I haven't yet found an 1881 census record for the family either. Thomas seems to moved around Lincs. a  bit in his early days so, maybe William did too.

Is there anything else you have missing?

Looking at Emma's birth record on https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Emma has no mother's maiden name listed, which suggests she was possibly illegitimate. I've haven't looked at the actual record to check - need to order a PDF for 6.
Given her DOB perhaps she is actually a Grandchild that Francis brought up as her own??????

I'll see if I can find anything else for William

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Re: William & Frances Elvin 1881 Census - Help
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 August 18 17:44 BST (UK) »
Various trees on ancestry but none have 1881

Louisa Maud
Census information is Crown Copyright,
from  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes