James Kerr BOYLE, born Salford, 1872

[trish1120]

Its a small world as my Father/Mother were living in Tuakau at the time of Charles Homer Boyles death 1938.

I am sure that it would not of been a large place then and likely my Parents knew the Boyles.

[Timbottawa]

Well, again, thanks to all ... I've finally found some time to sit down and digest everything.  I attach a picture of the family tree as I see it.  I realise that there are probably living descendants of William Massey II, Gilbert and Arthur. (I just realised there is a typo - should be CHARLES Homer Boyle, 1916-38).

Focusing on two of the women ... Florence, who married James Kerr Boyle in 1894(?) was born Florence Ford in 1868, and married Richard Widdows in 1881.  They had 3 children, of whom 2 were still surviving in 1920 when Florence made her will - hence she had 5 surviving children at that time, 2 from her 1st marriage and 3 by her 2nd.

Alice Homer ... perhaps I am missing something, but I don't understand why minnehaha thinks she may have been married twice from the newspaper announcement of the death of Charles Homer Boyle.  Being the nephew of Mr. & Mrs Shields could mean they are Alice's sister and husband.  Also, since Charles Homer Boyle as born in 1916, and Charles William Homer died in Oct. 1917, that would have been an extremely unpatriotic affair!  Perhaps Charles William was Alice's brother?

What fun!

[jorose]

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19060620.2.83?items_per_page=100&query=%22James+Kerr+Boyle%22
 - in 1906 it seems he was going by "James B Burke"? Mentions two previous convictions - the one in 1902 and

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19040506.2.43?items_per_page=100&query=%22James+B+Burke%22
 - 1904, James B Burke aka Boyle convicted of forgery

[minniehaha]

Part quote.....

"Alice Homer ... perhaps I am missing something, but I don't understand why minnehaha thinks she may have been married twice from the newspaper announcement of the death of Charles Homer Boyle"

A possible scenario?:

Starting with the death notice in 1938 for "Charles Homer BOYLE, son of Alice & Arthur, aged 22 years". Therefore his year of birth was about 1916.

There is no birth registration in New Zealand for Charles Homer BOYLE but there is one for a Charles HOMER in 1916, son of Alice & Charles William Homer who married 1915. These details shown in my post above.

Two deaths in 1918:

1918/9516   Homer   Charles William   35Y
1918/86833   Homer   Charles William   23Y

Alice HOMER may have remarried in 1921, to Arthur BOYLE[/b] and her new husband brought Charles Homer up as his own? However Charles may not have been legally adopted as is shown at his death registration-

1938/19535   Homer   Charles   22Y

[The Cenotaph details for a Charles William Homer are probably not connected to the above Alice Homer.]

N.B. The above information is only relevant if it relates to "your" Arthur BOYLE.

There are also two other marriage possibilities:

1920/11945   May   Ogg   Arthur   Boyle   
1923/9665   Mabel Muriel Andrews   Rankin   Arthur   Boyle

I will try & obtain the newspaper death notice for Arthur BOYLE in an attempt to settle to whom he was married.

Minniehaha

[minniehaha]

Part quote:

"There are two other marriage possibilities:

1920/11945   May   Ogg   Arthur   Boyle   
1923/9665   Mabel Muriel Andrews   Rankin   Arthur   Boyle"

Death:

1977/44567   Boyle   May   10 March 1891

Divorce:

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22644755


Minniehaha.

[minniehaha]

Cemetery details for an Alice BOYLE........

Burial record for Alice Boyle

Date of birth
Unknown

Occupation
Retired

Date of death
12 September 1993

Age at death
93 years

Gender
Female

Region
West

Cemetery name
Waikumete Cemetery

Plot location
Waikumete Cemetery, Roman Catholic Lawn C, Row 6, Plot 46

Remains type
Body

Date of burial
15 September 1993

Funeral director
Davis Funeral Services Ltd

I'm hoping the death notice may help!

Minniehaha.

[minniehaha]

Death notice for an Arthur BOYLE [1940] whose wife was Alice........

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19400926.2.5?end_date=31-12-1940&query=arthur+boyle&start_date=01-01-1940&title=ALG%2CAS%2CDSC%2CKWE%2CNZH%2CNZ%2CTO%2CPWT%2CROTWKG%2CKCC%2CMATREC%2COG%2CPAKIOM%2CTAN%2CTHA%2CTHS%2CWHDT%2CWAIGUS%2CWAIKIN%2CWT


So the Arthur BOYLE mentioned in Replies #30 & 22 is not "your" Arthur BOYLE........


Minniehaha.

[Timbottawa]

Right - yes, a different person, so the Homer link is wrong.

Looking back at reply 22 I now understand what you were saying ... it's taken me a while to interpret the on-line records from NZ archives

[minniehaha]

I am going to try and obtain some more of the death notices for you, possibly tomorrow.

Watch this space......


Minniehaha.