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Re: Annie Wright born Annie Smith 1871 Claypole near Newark (Lincs/Notts)
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 14 August 18 14:44 BST (UK) »
 "some of the detail above I posted from FreeReg and gave the link for OP to check after nottsgirl posted these details"

must go to specsavers  8)
I did not see the dates and details I posted, really must pay more attention.
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing.Wink. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley

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Re: Annie Wright born Annie Smith 1871 Claypole near Newark (Lincs/Notts)
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 14 August 18 20:05 BST (UK) »
Just been reminding myself of all the information we have discussed over the last few days alongside my earlier research. Lady hawk mentions Charlotte Parkin changed to Smith in reply #9. I have a reference to a Charlotte Parkin with the same family of Smiths in the 1911 census. I think they were in Mansfield which is where Annie and her husband were now living.

Also reply #11 about Charlotte Corah - I had found her previously but did anyone find when she married Joseph Corah?

Still trying to find more about Emily. 

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Re: Annie Wright born Annie Smith 1871 Claypole near Newark (Lincs/Notts)
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 11:01 BST (UK) »
1851 HO107/2138/42 p14
 18 month old Charlotte living with her grandparents. Hope no one else has posted this- I did check, but then I do appear to be going blind!

1861 RG 9/2481/35/ p 35

1871 RG10/3540/28 p 4

Ladyhawk I do think the 1881 posted above is the same Charlotte.

AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing.Wink. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley

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Re: Annie Wright born Annie Smith 1871 Claypole near Newark (Lincs/Notts)
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 11:17 BST (UK) »
Funny. Just looking at this Charlotte on the 1851 census and thinking this sounds a good possibility.  Balderton is very near Claypole. Wondering whether her mother is Sarah or if there are any older daughters in the family


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Re: Annie Wright born Annie Smith 1871 Claypole near Newark (Lincs/Notts)
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 12:07 BST (UK) »
Did give her baptism earlier. Reply number 32. Yay I am not the only one Ladyhawk  :o

"Balderton, St Giles baptisms
bap.17 Sep 1876 born 8 Feb 1875 Betsey dau of Charlotte Smith labourer abode Balderton
bap. 15 Sep 1878 born 12 Aug 1877 Thomas son of Charlotte Smith servant abode Balderton

25 May 1849 Charlotte dau  Sarah Smith single woman abode Balderton
9 Jan 1848 George ( as above)
31 Jan 1844 Robert ( ditto)
14 Nov 1852 John ( ditto)"


Edit- George buried Balderton 19 Oct 1849 aged 1 3/4
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing.Wink. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley

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Re: Annie Wright born Annie Smith 1871 Claypole near Newark (Lincs/Notts)
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 18:36 BST (UK) »
1851  1851 HO107/2138/42 p14   
 18 month old Charlotte living with her grandparents.

Hope no one else has posted this- I did check, but then I do appear to be going blind!


It was posted previously  :o but easy to miss as it was at the beginning of the thread at
Reply 8
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1851 HO107; Piece: 2138; Folio: 42; Page: 14;
Willm Smith   46
Mary Smith   46
Sarah Smith   22
Thos Smith   17
Joseph Smith   14
Betsy Smith dau   8
Robert Smith gdson   7
Sarah Ann Smith gddau   2
Charlotte Smith granddaughter 18 Mo Balderton, Nottinghamshire

possible birth entry from GRO again no mmn

SMITH, CHARLOTTE       -     
1849  J Quarter in OF THE NEWARK UNION  Volume 15  Page 613   


The above 1849 Mar/Apr/May 1849 birth entry ties in with the baptism posted for Charlotte

"25 May 1849 Charlotte dau  Sarah Smith single woman abode Balderton"

and her possible mother Sarah dau of William & Mary

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Also reply #11 about Charlotte Corah - I had found her previously but did anyone find when she married Joseph Corah?


Yes I did but not the full entry on FreeBMD it was in 1872 Sheffield

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Reply 11
I think their daughter Charlotte Smith bn c 1851 may marry a Joseph Corah and can be found on

1881 census  RG11; Piece: 3377; Folio: 14; Page: 22
Joseph Corah   32
Charlotte Corah   30 Newark, Nottinghamshire

you would need confirmation of her m/c to confirm father's name is Francis

and

reply 34
Charlotte Smith appears to have married in Sheffield 1872 a Joseph Corah
(as previously mentioned m/c would confirm father's name)

I've checked Sheffield Indexers but the marriage is not transcribed there

Here's the entry from FreeBMD

Jun 1872   
BOWN    Charles                       Sheffield    9c   362    
Corah    Joseph                Sheffield    9c   362    
Downey    William Wentworth        Sheffield    9c   362   
IBBETT    Elizabeth Matilda        Sheffield    9c   362    
Smith    Charlotte                Sheffield    9c   362

also checked familysearch but it only gives above details
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2DLF-8N6

I have a reference to a Charlotte Parkin with the same family of Smiths in the 1911 census.

 I think they were in Mansfield which is where Annie and her husband were now living.

Here's the 1911 entry from family search
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWSS-JMQ

Charlotte Parkin      65   Balderton Newark
Kate Smith      29   Normanton Newark
Ernest Smith           10   Mansfield Newark
Lesley Smith        6   Mansfield Newark

1901 census entry  - going to recheck as I may have made an error in saying her surname should have been Smith rather than Parkin on original

1901 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSNF-47Z
The Village
Charlotte Parkin   Head      55   Balderton, Nottinghamshire
Kate Smith   Daughter   19   Normanton On Trent, Nottinghamshire
John Smith   Son   13           Normanton On Trent, Nottinghamshire
Ernest Smith   Grand Son   Male   0   Normanton On Trent, Nottinghamshire

Bpt was previously posted

Ernest SMITH   10 Feb 1901   Nottinghamshire   Normanton on Trent : St Matthew
mother Kate Smith

I rechecked 1901c
::) mixed it up with 1891 census where there is a Joseph Parkin snr. & Charlotte Parkin & living next door is  Charlotte Smith single with dau Kate & son John RG13; Piece: 3123; Folio: 57; Page: 11

and here's a possible marriage entry for Charlotte Smith

Sep 1895   
Cobb    Harriett                        E. Retford    7b   47    
Hollingsworth    Joseph        E. Retford    7b   47   
Parkin    Joseph        E. Retford    7b   47    
Smith    Charlotte                E. Retford    7b   47

I'm wondering if Joseph Parkin is the son of Joseph Parkin Snr. & Charlotte as there's also a
Joseph Parkin Jnr on the same 1901 census with his wife and family

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Re: Annie Wright born Annie Smith 1871 Claypole near Newark (Lincs/Notts)
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 19:33 BST (UK) »
Charlotte is Sarah’s daughter. The other granddaughter belongs to a sibling. Not got access to this evidence at mo

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Re: Annie Wright born Annie Smith 1871 Claypole near Newark (Lincs/Notts)
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 19:39 BST (UK) »
Jun 1872   
BOWN    Charles                       Sheffield    9c   362     
Corah    Joseph                Sheffield    9c   362     
Downey    William Wentworth        Sheffield    9c   362   
IBBETT    Elizabeth Matilda        Sheffield    9c   362     
Smith    Charlotte                Sheffield    9c   362

Thanks. Found the reference this afternoon and will follow it up in the hope
of eliminating this Charlotte

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Re: Annie Wright born Annie Smith 1871 Claypole near Newark (Lincs/Notts)
« Reply #44 on: Sunday 02 September 18 17:33 BST (UK) »
Just to let you know that the marriage certificate for Charlotte and Joseph Corah shows her father to be Francis Smith, so hopefully this rules her out as Annie’s mother.
I think the Balderton-born Charlotte is the most likely as there seems to be several coincidences, including moving to Mansfield where the married Annie is living.  She is Charlotte Parkin at this stage after a short marriage to a neighbour in Normanton.
I haven’t got very far investigating the movements of the other Annie Smith who lives with Francis and Ann as their daughter in 1881 or her possible mother Emily in the hope that I can be nearer 100% certain