William Kelly 1777 Kirk Douglas Isle of man

[Celia Douglas]

Hi trying to find birth records of William Kelly 1777 kirk Douglas isle of Man I have his marriage to Margery Quayle marriage 20 April 1802  Kirk Douglas Isle of Man . would love to know who his parents were any help wood be great thank you . and wondering if the came from Ireland .   thank you Celia Douglas

[KGarrad]

There was no Kirk Douglas?!
Douglas was then a small fishing port, and parts were in Kirk Braddan, and parts in Kirk Onchan parishes.

Your marriage was on 26 June 1802 in Kirk Braddan.

Do you have them in any censuses? Was a birthplace mentioned?

[KGarrad]

From ManxNoteBook (and therefore from Manx Families, A.W.Moore) re Kelly:

This family is known to be a very old one in the Island, but there is no regular record of it before John (born 1699, obit 1762). He married (1) in 1743 Christian (born 1702, obit 1757, buried at Peel) daughter of Vicar General Seddan, and had issue William (born 1743, obit sans progeny) and Ann (born 1746) who married Vicar General Christian.

http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/famhist/families/awm1889/kelly.htm

[Frances_mnb]

by 1777 Douglas was the largest town on the Island and the centre for most if not all  mercantile activity
as post 1765 George Moore had 'retired' from the running trade in Peel
 - the then Attorney General choose to live at Newtown(Mount Murray) to be within easy reach of both Castletown (seat of government) and Douglas
re John Kelly see http://www.isle-of-man.com/genealogy/messageboard/index.pl/page/2/md/read/id/561681
- as the OP didn't come back I saw no point in saying I could take back another generation and possibly one before that.

[Celia Douglas]

thank you for that information I  have the parish registers for 1598 to 2009 the film # 004494872
image number 00306      my computer died yesterday got it going this morning hope it stays that way . thank you very much I was not to sure if I was on the right trail .    cheers Celia

[Celia Douglas]

thank you for your information had a bit of computer trouble yesterday.   any help would be wonderful .thank you

[Celia Douglas]

okay Just had a look at your web sit and it dose not come close to my Kelly's
this is my line William Kelly dob 1841 Douglas Isle of Man died 1867 Birkenhead Cheshire England. he was a Painter /Plaster. his wife was Mary Jane McDowell dob 4 Nov 1843  Dromore Parish Down Ireland  they married in Douglas Isle of Man. hope I'm not breaking any rules doing this . thank you very much. cheers Celia

[KGarrad]

The marriage certificate has your William, and Mary Jane, living on Sand Street.
I believe this may be Strand Street
The marriage was in January 1861, a few months before the 1861 census.

If it is, then this may be them on the 1861 census?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7RG-G3H
Although I don't understand the transcription of in-laws surname as "Lrong"?!
RG09/4418/64/17

However, I can't find any other William Kelly, living on Sand/Strand Street?
And, both William and Mary Jane are indeed minors, as stated on the Marriage Certificate.
And William is a plasterer, again as stated on the Marriage Certificate.

[Frances_mnb]

Strand street was known as Sand street for decades before the 'posher' sounding Strand street was used
 - literally it originated as the road to Ramsey on the sand running along the edge of Ballakermeen quarterland
- beginning in 18th but mostly in 19th C the sandside was infilled to provide more solid ground for building
- further land reclamation was done in the 1930s
the father-in-law's name would usually be rendered as Mcilroy - the lrog is lroy
- ancestry tends to separate the mc/mac component