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Re: Bestal/Bestall of Wicklow
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 17:25 BST (UK) »
Thank you, that’s the certificate where Valentine appears to have been changed to William, I guessed he may be my great grandfather due to the name Cullen and worked out rough year from his death certificate in 1902 where it states he was 39 when he passed, so it kind of fits. 

Do you happen to know which church that the baptism took place?

Re COI I have often wondered about that, there seems to be a mixture of religions under that surname.

The earliest records I found were in the 1600/1700 and the name was Bestel and the strange thing is
My grandfather baptism is Bestel and that name has followed through till current day in Scotland. I do realise though that back in the day a lot of the various spellings would be down to the registrar writing it as it sounded and probably some people not being able to read or write.

In a way in my case I’m lucky as it’s quite an unusual name and only appears to be found mainly in Armagh and Wicklow, the odd time Dublin and elsewhere.

I have seen the above certificate but I couldn’t remember which website it was on, so thank you for posting.  I wish there was a search by name facility as would be so much easier to look. I’ll definitely search through it and hopefully find other family members

Thanks again for your help

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Re: Bestal/Bestall of Wicklow
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 18:08 BST (UK) »
What do you mean by due to the name Cullen? Has that name turned up somewhere else?

Don't know the church but it is Wicklow Parish
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0503

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Re: Bestal/Bestall of Wicklow
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 19:22 BST (UK) »
It has, John Cullen is one of the godparents mentioned on my grandfathers baptismal certificate in 1893. I know there are many Cullen’s in Wicklow but given that Anne Cullen is mentioned as the mother of William Valentine Bestal in 1862 there could be some sort of connection. Anne Cullen may have been born 1830’s/40’s (that’s a guess though, same with William Valentine’s father- another William Bestal) 

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 20:23 BST (UK) »
It's bugging me that on the Bestal Corcoran marriage, the father William is a farmer yet I only find William Law in Griffith's Valuation and the Applotment books.


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Re: Bestal/Bestall of Wicklow
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 20:38 BST (UK) »
Land Owners in Ireland 1876   Only Catherine and Eliza are mentioned...

https://www.failteromhat.com/lo1876/98.pdf
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Re: Bestal/Bestall of Wicklow
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 22:16 BST (UK) »
Land Owners in Ireland 1876   Only Catherine and Eliza are mentioned...

https://www.failteromhat.com/lo1876/98.pdf
Catherine's husband William Law died 1867.

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Re: Bestal/Bestall of Wicklow
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 22:26 BST (UK) »
An Elizabeth Bestall died 21 July 1875 spinster of Leitrim Place Wicklow.

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Re: Bestal/Bestall of Wicklow
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 16 August 18 00:46 BST (UK) »
It is, I posted that 7 years ago. The whole situation is strange as you say. Perhaps not all records on file yet or lost. Unless they moved about from farm to farm but you would think there would be some records on griffiths valuation at the very least.

I’ve been stuck at the same point for years 

I would have thought William would have popped up in someone else’s tree ( brother of) etc

Re Elizabeth Bestal who died in 1875, may I ask does it say who her parents were or who the informant was?