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Re: Bestal/Bestall of Wicklow
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 16 August 18 05:38 BST (UK) »
Her cert isn't online yet, I was looking at the Will Calendars
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014900/005014900_00032.pdf

Farmers don't move around. Children sometimes fib about father's occupation.
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Re: Bestal/Bestall of Wicklow
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 16 August 18 06:51 BST (UK) »
Sorry I meant he may not have been a tennant farmer, just worked on various farms

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Re: Bestal/Bestall of Wicklow
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 16 August 18 07:18 BST (UK) »
Sorry I meant he may not have been a tennant farmer, just worked on various farms


Exactly not a farmer an agricultural labourer.
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Re: Bestal/Bestall of Wicklow
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 16 August 18 07:33 BST (UK) »
William Bestel b1893 (my grandfather) siblings were
Bridget born Wicklow, Ireland Married William Martin in Ireland
Margaret married to .... Kelly.
Mary Anne Bistal b13 Sep 1888 in Avoca, Baptised 16 Sep 1888, Avoca, address Balinastraw, godparents Brian &Maria Laughlin
John (aka Jack) Bestial b12 Oct 1890 ē Aughrm, Ireland Baptised 13 Oct 1890 as address Mongnacool, parish Aughrim, godparents Andrew & Margaret Cosgrove,
Edward b1896
Francis b1898 Wicklow
 

No other children apart from William (father of the above children) are known for Bestal Cullen parents.
If William was their only child he would have taken over the family farm, but if that was the case why is he moving around so much.
Either he's not the eldest child or his father wasn't a farmer, or they lost the farm for some reason.

Apart from the marriage to Margaret Corcoran is there any record of where William comes from, did he and Margaret also move to Scotland? Are they in any census?
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Re: Bestal/Bestall of Wicklow
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 16 August 18 10:35 BST (UK) »
William Bestal and Margaret Corcoran were married on 2 Jul 1888 Avoca Williamís address shows as Ballinakill, Margaretís address - Bariniskey, witnesses John & Mary Sullivan

I donít know when they moved to Scotland but it appears it was between 1901-1902 as William b1962, the only record I have of him is his death certificate in 1902, looks as though he just missed the census of 1901.

However their daughters Bridget and Margaret came over to Scotland before 1901 and theyíre on the Scottish census

I got the impression that they all returned to Ireland after Williams death and returned to Scotland later which was definitley before 1914. Iím not 100% sure about that though.

I was told one of their sons remained in wicklow Ireland to work in a family members farm and died in Ireland. Iím not sure of the details of when he returned and when he died

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Re: Bestal/Bestall of Wicklow
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 16 August 18 10:56 BST (UK) »
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Re: Bestal/Bestall of Wicklow
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 16 August 18 11:08 BST (UK) »

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Re: Bestal/Bestall of Wicklow
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 16 August 18 11:37 BST (UK) »
Nice find dathai.

The 1902 death cert, what does it say?
Was he still married, is there any trace of his wife in Scotland?
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Re: Bestal/Bestall of Wicklow
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 16 August 18 11:54 BST (UK) »
C Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for Best*
Area - Rathdrum   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mio/

Can look Dublin etc via list on left!!
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