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Charles Edmund Fowler Wyncoll
« on: Wednesday 15 August 18 09:52 BST (UK) »
Born 1883 East Indies - Died 1956, Crail

Married Contessa Beatrice Theresa Sant Cassia (born 1885) in 1908 - two daughters Beatrice born 1908 and Margaret born 1929 that i know of.

Remarried Euphemia Will Patrick (born 1896, died 1966) in 1931.

Any advise as to what happened to wife number one or his daughters would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Charles Edmund Fowler Wyncoll
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 21:32 BST (UK) »
Where was the 1931 marriage - East Indies or Scotland?

Big age gap between the 2 daughters - presume first marriage plus daughters births  were East Indies

Any idea as to when he arrived in Scotland?
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Re: Charles Edmund Fowler Wyncoll
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 August 18 21:42 BST (UK) »
There are several trees on Ancestry.  One says daughter Beatrice was born in Malta and died in 1939..

There are several discrepancies in the info on the trees.  eg Marriage was 1907 in Malta
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Re: Charles Edmund Fowler Wyncoll
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 16 August 18 04:37 BST (UK) »
Hi CaroleW,

I have the 1931 marriage taking place in Bombay, India.

Daughter Beatrice was born in 1908 in Malta - I have no details about daughter Margaret's birth.



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Re: Charles Edmund Fowler Wyncoll
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 16 August 18 05:06 BST (UK) »
"Married Contessa Beatrice Theresa Sant Cassia (born 1885) in 1908"

Where did Charles & Contessa marry, what was his occ. & who were his parents?

"two daughters Beatrice born 1908 and Margaret born 1929 that i know of"

Where were Beatrice & Margaret born?

What info. (confirmed) do you already have, tracing back to save duplication off effort but please include when each were last located whether on a census, witness on marriage, informant on death &/or any other info. significant?

Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Charles Edmund Fowler Wyncoll
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 August 18 05:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosinish,

Charles Edmund Fowler Wyncoll's parents were Charles Edward Wyncoll and Mary Johanna Fowler.

Charles EF was in the Military in 1905 and based in Malta (source: UK Harts Annual Army List).  In 1911 English Census, Charles and Contessa Beatrice are married with 3 years completed at the time of the census.  As stated previously, daughter Beatrice was born in Malta.  Other than a possible birthdate of Margaret (born 1929 - which is quite likely incorrect), I have no information around daughter Margaret.


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Re: Charles Edmund Fowler Wyncoll
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 August 18 05:27 BST (UK) »
Ok, but where was the birth place of Contessa on the 1911?

Where did you find Margaret being their child?

Without info. to guide people, therese's little chance of help.

What info. do you have on Margaret to say she's a daughter of Charles & Contessa?

Do you have a marriage/death or anything else with any info. to help?

Can you please give all known info. you have on Margaret to help your search?


Annie

South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Charles Edmund Fowler Wyncoll
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 August 18 05:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Rosinish

http://www.maltagenealogy.com/libro%20d'Oro/sant1.html

This is the website where I gathered the information from - I hope it is of help.

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Re: Charles Edmund Fowler Wyncoll
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 August 18 05:34 BST (UK) »
Charles EDWARD Fowler Wyncoll RE
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/28254/page/3969/data.pdf

or were there two of them?

Do you have his death certificate?
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)