Charles Edmund Fowler Wyncoll

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Some of the trees are mixing up father and son?

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http://www.maltagenealogy.com/libro%20d'Oro/sant1.html

This is the website where I gathered the information from - I hope it is of help.

I had a check using keyboard Ctrl & F to find the people you named however;

"Contessa Beatrice Sant Cassia, (1885-, married 1907 to Capt. Charles Fowler Wyncoll, R.E,"

I'm afraid, I don't follow this lead very well as it's not answering the questions I asked.

Do you have your own proof/verification on who you're researching with names/dates/places you can follow up on from a ground source such as as marriage/death or any other as the link is not any proof to me although maybe others may think so as it's too complicated without direct/positive links/proof...this is from someone elses research with no sources/resources i.e. nothing solid to follow.

You need to do a timeline of what you have (with verification) from yourself back to Charles E F Fowler with his occupation from certs. (marriage/death) or any other with any other details e.g. info. from docs. pertainng to dau Beatrice ?

What proof do you have of Margaret being a daughter?

Do you have anything on Charles' parentage etc. from his marriage?

How did you arrive at C E F Wyncoll?

Annie

Add, Crossed posts WO, I was typing when you posted! 

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I'm guessing this is the daughter

Beatrice Elizabeth Mary Wyncoll born 1909 in Malta showing in a census record (compared to Elizabeth Fowler Wyncoll on Libro d'Oro)

the mother is also known as Beatrice Wyncoll

So which one actually died in 1939?

1911 on Familysearch
Charles Edward Fowler Wyncoll   born Shajehampin India Resident
Beatrice Wyncoll born Citta Vseechia Malta Resident
Beatrice Elizabeth Mary Wyncoll   born Citta Vseechia Malta Resident

and his birth on Familysearch
Charles Edward Fowler Wyncoll
India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947
birth:   27 May 1883   
christening:   22 July 1883   Shakjahanpur, Bengal, India
residence:   1883   Bengal, India   
father:   Charles Edward Wyncoll
mother:   Mary Johanna

So the father and son have the same name?

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Hi all ,

Valuation Rolls(SP) -
Lieutenent Colonel C E F Wyncoll
Proprietor
House Garden and Croft , 30 Nethergate South , Crail , 1935(nothing before 1935).

Probate -
Charles Edward Fowler Wyncoll of Ferncroft 30 Nethergate Crail , 26th died Sept 1956 Perth Royal Infirmary , Confirmation of Euphemia Will Patrick or Wyncoll widow. Sealed London January(1957).

Would that mention any children ?

Patrick or Wyncoll Euphemia Will of Ferncroft Nethergate Crail , died 3rd of August 1966 Leven , Confirmation of [ 2 Patrick daughters ? living ? ]. Sealed London October(1966).

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills


ev

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1901
WYNCOLL CHARLES 23
903/S 12/ 19 Shipping - Merchant Navy

Deaths (both downloadable) scotlandspeople

WYNCOLL CHARLES E F 73
1956
387/ 443 Perth

WYNCOLL EUPHEMIA WILL 71
1966
456/ 59 Scoonie (Fife)

I wonder who registered Euphemia's death?

Annie

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Marriages

WYNCOLE CHARLES EDWARD & PATRICK EUPHEMIA WILL 1931
056/AF 190 Service Returns

Not sure what's going on here as they all have the same reference no....

WYNCOLE CHARLES EDWARD & SUTHERLAND IAN DURWARD 1931 
056/AF 190 Service Returns

WYNCOLE CHARLES EDWARD & ANNETTE SYLVIA KATHLEEN 1931
056/AF 190 Service Returns

Annie

[ev]

[ 2 Patrick daughters ? living ? ]

Now think Euphemia's Probate refers to her sisters 
Marjorie Patrick or Robertson and Kathleen Rhind Patrick or Aitchison

Possible births for the sisters in Collessie Fife around 1900 


ev

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Marriages

WYNCOLE CHARLES EDWARD & PATRICK EUPHEMIA WILL 1931
056/AF 190 Service Returns

Not sure what's going on here as they all have the same reference no....

WYNCOLE CHARLES EDWARD & SUTHERLAND IAN DURWARD 1931 
056/AF 190 Service Returns

WYNCOLE CHARLES EDWARD & ANNETTE SYLVIA KATHLEEN 1931
056/AF 190 Service Returns

Annie

The "Service Return" part is refering to overseas marriage in India of a soldier on active duty, the other names are people on the same register in India. The data was then sent to England.

Family Search: location of Marriage India
Charles Edward Wyncoll
Father of groom
India Marriages, 1792-1948
child:   Charles Edward Fowler Wyncoll
other:   Euphemia Will Patrick, Samuel Patrick

Ian Sutherland married Sylvia Annette in Karachi India 1931 he was also a British Soldier.

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In all reality Beatrice Sant Cassia is probably buried in Malta in a family vault/area after all she was a noble of Malta.

Think we have cleared up that the father and son were both called Charles Edward Fowler Wyncoll from the Scottish Valuation.

The daughter Beatrice appears on one English census, no sign of Margaret?