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Tracing some Welsh emigrants - Emily Florence Allen m Frank Jones
« on: Thursday 16 August 18 20:16 BST (UK) »
I've been trying to trace this couple, born in Denbighshire, Wales. They are in the 1901 census in the Wrexham district, living in Gwersyllt. I can't find them after that until a passport application in 1922, in Bridgeport, Connecticut.

They had two children, Fanita (possibly Ethel Fanita) and Horace Jones, but I don't know where they were born, and I don't know when the couple emigrated.

There's a very confusing tree on Ancestry uk which I don't think is accurate! And I can't access some American records.

I don't know if Fanita - my mother's cousin - ever married. I do have a photo of her in the early 1970s and I've recently identified the place as Los Angeles. My mother visited twice from Britain and Fanita's address was in Port Huaneme 50 miles from there.

That's a long way from Connecticut and big gaps in my information....can anyone help?



LITTLE - Lancs, Cheshire. Dumbarton, Dublin and Glasgow - and South Africa. Also Canada

PRICE, ALLEN, JONES, JACKSON - Gwersyllt and Wrexham

ANDREWS, DOWSE, MEMERY - Dublin, US, and Canada

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Re: Tracing some Welsh emigrants - Emily Florence Allen m Frank Jones
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 16 August 18 20:48 BST (UK) »
Possible

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GR4F-9SM?i=47&cc=1810731

1930 US census states Ethel b 1910 in Connecticut. Parents arrived 1906
Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Tracing some Welsh emigrants - Emily Florence Allen m Frank Jones
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 16 August 18 20:52 BST (UK) »
Same family with Horace b 1901 Wales in USA 1910 census. States parents arrived 1907

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RVM-4RW?i=20&cc=1727033

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Tracing some Welsh emigrants - Emily Florence Allen m Frank Jones
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 16 August 18 20:59 BST (UK) »
Name:   Mother's Maiden Surname:
JONES, HORACE  ALLEN  mmn   ALLEN     
GRO Reference: 1901  J Quarter in WREXHAM  Volume 11B  Page 277

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland


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Re: Tracing some Welsh emigrants - Emily Florence Allen m Frank Jones
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 16 August 18 21:09 BST (UK) »
Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Tracing some Welsh emigrants - Emily Florence Allen m Frank Jones
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 August 18 21:11 BST (UK) »
Cas -  thanks for these two,  that's very helpful.
I now see there's a new reply, but I will have to check  that out tomorrow - obviously I need to look harder at Familysearch! Thanks again.
LITTLE - Lancs, Cheshire. Dumbarton, Dublin and Glasgow - and South Africa. Also Canada

PRICE, ALLEN, JONES, JACKSON - Gwersyllt and Wrexham

ANDREWS, DOWSE, MEMERY - Dublin, US, and Canada

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Re: Tracing some Welsh emigrants - Emily Florence Allen m Frank Jones
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 August 18 22:45 BST (UK) »
Aboard the SS Carmania from Liverpool November 3, 1906, arrived New York November 10, 1906

Emily Florence Jones, 34, female, married, Welsh, last residence: Wrexham, did not have a ticket to her destination
destination: Husband, Frank Jones 617 Hancock Avenue, Bridgport, Connecticut, carrying $20, had not been in the US before, 5'5", fresh complexion, brown hair, blue eyes, no other physical marks of identification, born in Brymbo? nr? Drexham


Same ship, different page of manifest
[indexed as Horarb]
Horace Jones, 5, single, child, Welsh, last residence: Wrexham, destination: Father, Frank Jones, 617 Hancock Avenue, Bridgport, Connecticut, no height or description, or place of birth.

note: Traveling with mother

here is a link to Horace's page. Emily's page is linked incorrectly but if you browse through the ship you should be able to find her.

https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/engine/gold.html?username=010010013018025012028027001011074052002029014007009093023010029&password=093094080070017009028006029&pid=102324070318&type=manifest




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Re: Tracing some Welsh emigrants - Emily Florence Allen m Frank Jones
« Reply #7 on: Friday 17 August 18 00:19 BST (UK) »
Aboard the SS Celtic, from Liverpool, arriving New York April 15, 1906

one of a party of 7 all going to Romulus, Seneca County, NY

Henry, 28, Edith 30, and Winifred, 2, Collins, all last residence: New Southgate

Thomas George, single, 27, plasterer, last residence: same town as Frank, Wrexham

Wm Henry Jones, single, 28, plasterer, last residence: Rhoarobin?, Wrexham

John Thomas Tudor, 22, single, plasterer, last residence: Summerhill

and

Frank Jones, 34, male, married, a brick layer, last residence: Gweryllt?, Wrexham, carrying $30, paid his own passage and has a ticket to his destination, has not been in the US before, destination: Romulus, Seneca County, New York State

Frank's manifest is indexed incorrectly also, or I would send you a link.
I have attached the image of the last residences of the party traveling together, since I'm sure I didn't get the Welsh locations correct. Maybe someone can read them and know where they are.

I have screenshots of Frank's and Emily's manifests and can email them to you if you like. My email address is on the homepage of my site, which is non commercial and uses one cookie and does not ask for or keep any personal information other than your ip address, without which it would be impossible to connect anywhere on the Internet and which every site in existence records  (EU residents take note).

If that is still a problem, PM me and we can exchange email addresses that way.

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Re: Tracing some Welsh emigrants - Emily Florence Allen m Frank Jones
« Reply #8 on: Friday 17 August 18 01:33 BST (UK) »

I don't know if Fanita - my mother's cousin - ever married. I do have a photo of her in the early 1970s and I've recently identified the place as Los Angeles. My mother visited twice from Britain and Fanita's address was in Port Huaneme 50 miles from there.

That's a long way from Connecticut and big gaps in my information....can anyone help?

Ethel Fanita is mentioned in her father's obit in 1962 as Fanita Malone of Bridgeport

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The Bridgeport Post
Bridgeport, Connecticut
Thursday, July 20, 1967 - Page 3

Mrs. Fanita Malone Retires
As State Cancer Unit Leader NEW HAVEN
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Mrs. Fanita S. Malone, of 174 Martin terrace, a leading figure in state cancer control activities the past two decades, has retired as state service director of the Connecticut division, American Cancer society, it was announced today. Mrs. Malone will leave this week with her husband, Harold Malone, for a slay in Ventura, Ca1if. She said her future plans will be determined after her visit on the west coast. Born in Bridgeport, Mrs. Ma. lone assumed the post of executive secretary of the Bridgeport unit in 1947, when it occupied a single room in the local Visiting Nurses association offices.

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1923 Passenger Ship record gives Ethel's birth as 17 Apr. 1909 Bridgeport.

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Ship's record: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JNQB-QZ5

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DOB matches

Public Records: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJ46-ND7Z

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Fanita died 2007.

SSDI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JG2V-M4D

Obit listing: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK2J-YZCZ


Fanita Malone obituary (VenturaCountyStar)

Fanita Malone (1909 - 2007) archived 

Fanita Malone, 98, of Ventura, passed away Friday, Aug. 31, 2007, in a Ventura convalescent home after an extended illness. She was born April 17, 1909, in Bridgeport, Conn., and has been a county resident for 40 years, moving here in 1967 with her husband, Harold. Before coming to California, Fanita earned a bachelor's degree at Rutgers University in New Jersey, and her master's degree at the University of Colorado. She established a...

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