Author Topic: Ellen Mary Kay Born 23 March 1912 in Birkenhead, England  (Read 886 times)

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Re: Ellen Mary Kay Born 23 March 1912 in Birkenhead, England
« Reply #9 on: Monday 20 August 18 15:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Derek,

When I saw b. France, made me take a closer look. Perhaps that why she changed her middle
name from Mary to Marie. ;)

Have you looked into an obit for mother Sarah?

Was the Thomas Kay listed just below Sarah and Ellen on the passenger manifest related?

DB

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Re: Ellen Mary Kay Born 23 March 1912 in Birkenhead, England
« Reply #10 on: Monday 20 August 18 15:46 BST (UK) »
HI DB,

Wondered if the wedding cert name change to Marie was just a typo, does happen (our son-in-law had to take their wedding cert back to get changed). The card we have written by Ellen Mary was certainly signed Ellen Mary Kay - have had a quick look - signature seems similar (but will print out to compare) between wedding cert and the card.

Yes had a look for Orbit for Sarah but no luck - also Ellen Mary does not appear to be around at that time (Sarah was in hospital for a couple of years before death - I have her records via the Royal BC Museum). The funeral was arranged & paid for via the hospital. Sarah is buried in Fort Langley, we have the death cert again via the BC records. Hospital records (quite a few pages) - mention a daughter at one place - but nobody appears to have met her and then later when an operation was required “No known living relation's” appears in the records. Ellen is not on the very short visitors list either.

Thomas and some other Kay's were onboard - but far as we can see none are related to Sarah and Ellen Mary. The family story was that Sarah had run away with a Doctor - which have been unable to prove and if she did - does not seem to have lasted long. We do now know that it was a lot more complicated than that - recently found out that she had some other babies before her marriage to Keaton Kay - at least one of which ended up in Canada via Barnardoes (we have their report from prior departure England also) - we are in touch with their descendants, and appears to be no knowledge of Sarah and Ellen Mary being in Canada. 

Rgds
Derek