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62nd & 81st Regiment for Drum Major number 81
« on: Monday 20 August 18 20:04 BST (UK) »
Hi there

I've searched best I can on Ancestry, Folio3, Forces war Records, Internet.  I cannot find my way around the national archive site. 

William Kell born 1796 Wiltshire
Army number 81
1811 joined 62nd regiment on foot - 25/6/1811 - 31/12/1828
1829 62nd Regiment - 1/1/1829 - 31/10/1830
1930 transferred to 81st regiment on foot - 1/11/1830 - 6/6/1843
Service shows Spain for 1.5 years, Holland and France for 9 months, N.America for 8.5 years - BUT no dates.
He ended up as Drum Major having once being demoted to drummer after a drunken event in 1833.
Source of above Folio3 copies of enrolment, discharge papers.

One possible source (http://www.lancashireinfantrymuseum.org.uk/the-81st-loyal-lincolnshire-volunteers-regiment-of-foot/) suggests garrison duty 1817 - 1853 in canada, Gibraltar, W Indies, England, Ireland but that's all. 

Specifically I'd like to know:
1. Where can I find a summary including dates of this regiments movements?  Specifically where and when in Ireland as I am also trying to trace his daughters birthplace and marriage details.
2. Where would he and his family have lived during that time as he had all his kids during his army career.

Thank you very much in advance.

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Re: 62nd & 81st Regiment for Drum Major number 81
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 August 18 20:10 BST (UK) »
From TNA British Army worldwide Index ref WO 12/8554:
William Kell
Service number   81
Drum Major 81st Foot
In 1841 at Charlesfort, Kinsale
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: 62nd & 81st Regiment for Drum Major number 81
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 August 18 20:14 BST (UK) »
at
    1816.03.24   81st Regiment of Foot
redesignated upon disbandment of 2nd Battalion (absorbed its personnel)
    1817   Ireland   
    1822   Nova Scotia   
    1826   New Brunswick   
    1829   West Indies   
    1831   England   
    1832   Ireland   
    1836   Gibraltar   
    1839   West Indies   
    1843   Canada   
    1847   England
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: 62nd & 81st Regiment for Drum Major number 81
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 August 18 20:14 BST (UK) »
Hi

Wow that was fast - how did you find that in the national Archives?


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Re: 62nd & 81st Regiment for Drum Major number 81
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 August 18 20:15 BST (UK) »
Hi

Second Wow - How did you find all that out so quick?  I've spent all day!

Where in Ireland?

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Re: 62nd & 81st Regiment for Drum Major number 81
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 August 18 20:20 BST (UK) »
Just checking something as the 1841 index has him in Ireland....but the regiment were supposed to be in the West Indies ?
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: 62nd & 81st Regiment for Drum Major number 81
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 August 18 20:24 BST (UK) »
 Victorian era   Edit
1817 – 1853: Garrison Duty in Canada, Gibraltar, The West Indies, England and Ireland   Edit
The regiment garrisoned the Ireland until being transferred to Canada in 1822. After seven years in Canada, the regiment were sent to the West Indies, spending two years in Bermuda before being returned to England in 1831.[40] After rotating through stations in England and Ireland, the regiment was on the move again, being stationed at Gibraltar in 1836, reinforcing the garrison there when tensions started to escalate during the First Carlist War. After nine years on the Rock, the regiment was once again sent back to the West Indies. Three years in the West Indies' outposts of Barbados, Trinidad and Tobago, and St. Kitts were followed by years in Canada. The regiment would be returned home to England in 1847.[41] After serving in various stations in England and Ireland, the regiment was sent on foreign service again, this time to India in 1853.[42]
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: 62nd & 81st Regiment for Drum Major number 81
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 August 18 20:26 BST (UK) »
From GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 To 1924)
Catherin Kell
b 1835 Dublin
Regiment   81st Foot
Volume   23 p 43
Archive reference   REG1
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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