Author Topic: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920  (Read 811 times)

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George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« on: Tuesday 21 August 18 22:43 BST (UK) »
Im hoping someone recognises these names as I  would love to know more about my mums dads side :) I only know what ive found on ancestry.

George Ronald Kirk and Wilhelmina Kirk (maiden name trainer) are my great grandparents, All I know is that the Kirks (Georges family) are from Scotland but moved down to Newcastle Northumberland which is where Wilhelmina lived. They later moved to Woolwich, London in the 1940's and had 2 sons and 2 daughter, Ronald, Christina, Jean and David, after a few years in Woolwich George died very young he fell from Blackheath church in 1949.

I would really appreciate the help

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Emma,
 

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Re: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 August 18 23:21 BST (UK) »
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Births March qtr 1921   
Trainer    Wilhelmina    mothers maiden name (mmn) Duxfield    Newcastle on Tyne 10b 97

Marriages December qtr 1921 
Duxfield    Elizabeth      
Trainer    William      Newcastle upon Tyne    10b   284

You will need to use www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk to look for George's birth.  You can download a copy of his birth cert to get his parents names

No marriage showing for George and Wilhelmina in England
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Re: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 21 August 18 23:30 BST (UK) »
Did Wilhelmina marry Walter H Kelly in 1953?

Where was George Ronald Kirk born?
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Re: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 21 August 18 23:32 BST (UK) »
That is all correct and yes she did marry Walter :) I just cant seem to find anything on George other than his death and a few electoral records when he was living in woolwich

Im not sure where George was born all I know is Scotland

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Re: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 August 18 23:40 BST (UK) »
They married in Ayr in 1939  as per Scotlands People.  You can download a copy of the marriage cert from that site which will give you George's parents names and mothers maiden name.  He is only shown as George on the marriage entry but SP is showing a birth for a George Rogan Kirk in the timescale

Ignore that birth - he died aged 1yr
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Re: George Ronald Kirk 1914-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 August 18 01:08 BST (UK) »
Its a tricky one isnt it I wished I knew where in Scotland he was born. I really appreicate your help and time :)

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Re: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 August 18 01:20 BST (UK) »
There's this possible birth on scotlandspeople;

KIRK GEORGE 1912
614/ 26 Stair (Ayr)

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

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Re: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 22 August 18 01:25 BST (UK) »
Go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and buy a few credits. Use 6 of these to download the 1939 marriage certificate. It will tell you the full names of both of his parents, including their mothers' maiden surnames. It will also tell you how old he was, from which you can work out approximately when he was born. You can also look up his parents' marriage and see where they lived, which should give you an idea where he might have been born.

I see from https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl that he was said to be 35 when he died in 1949. That gives a birth year of 1913/1914.
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Re: George Ronald Kirk 1913-1949 and Wilhelmina Christine Kirk 1920
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 22 August 18 11:56 BST (UK) »
I donít think he was born in Scotland but until you establish his parents names from the marriage cert you wonít be able to move on

Was his middle name definitely Ronald on his death cert?
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