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Re: Anne Hatton/McElhatton b.c.1836
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 02 September 18 00:54 BST (UK) »
Hugh Hatton & Susan Murphy? Trying to go through the parish records to look out for names i recognise, a bit hard as its in Latin  ???
Surnames were in English. It'll be the handwriting which makes you think it's Latin.  ;D
Would it help to make a list of possibles from indexes on FindMyPast and Ancestry first?
After 1864 you can use civil registration website.
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Re: Anne Hatton/McElhatton b.c.1836
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 02 September 18 08:43 BST (UK) »
The surname Hatton only shows up 14 times in 1911 in County Londonderry- all R.C. and living in Gulladuff (13 born in Co.Derry & a 5 year old born in Scotland). This points to it being one family or extended family rather than ones who have been settled in a district for generations.

There are 20 Hattons in 1901 census in Co. Derry (2 young boys born Philadelphia & the rest in Co. Derry).

Hattens contributed to the building of Lavey Chapel- http://www.laveyparish.com/smhis2.htm
Some baptisms here- http://www.laveyparish.com/laveybaptisms.html

Old Age Pension claim shows Hatton & McElhatton for same family which isn't surprising-
HATTON Patrick (Brian) Bernard HATTON Catherine HATTON Moyagall Maghera Loughinsholin Londonderry 1916 - Moyagall, Knocktoghrim, Derry. 1851 Bernard and Catherine McElhatton married 1844, Patrick 2, James 4mos.

Hatton (Brian) John of Mayogall county Londonderry farmer died 12 January 1927 Probate Londonderry 3 February to Thomas Muldoon farmer. Effects £92 2s. 6d.
Hatton (Daniel) Patrick of Moyagall county Londonderry farmer died 10 February 1914 Probate Londonderry 14 August to Daniel Hatton farmer. Effects £84 7s. 6d.
Probate of the Will of Edward Hatton late of Mayogall County Londonderry Farmer who died 29 May 1912 granted at Londonderry to John Convery Farmer. Effects £22.
Probate of the Will of James Hatton late of Moyagall, Co. Londonderry, Farmer, who died 3 February 1910, granted at Londonderry 25 August 1920 to Francis Dillon, Farmer. Effects: £6 0s 0d.
Probate of the Will of Mary Hatton late of Mayogall County Londonderry Spinster who died 10 May 1913 granted at Londonderry to Francis Dillon Farmer. Effects £18.
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Re: Anne Hatton/McElhatton b.c.1836
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 02 September 18 08:53 BST (UK) »
Hatton burials at Lavey Chapel (no gravestone picture shown so perhaps there isn't one)-
http://www.laveyparish.com/lgynames.html

A Mary Hatton/McElhatton went to Australia- http://www.laveyparish.com/notboard.htm

Here's the orginal Pension Claim form-
http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/reels/c19/007246694/007246694_00667.pdf

They were McHatton in Griffith's Valuation- surname listing for Maghera Parish makes it easier to spot them- https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/derry/maghera.htm
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Re: Anne Hatton/McElhatton b.c.1836
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 02 September 18 09:02 BST (UK) »
After finding the above records, I'm wondering if there's a mistake in 1901 census and instead of 'Co. Mayo' for Ann Magee's birthplace it should have read 'Mayogall.'

You can see how close Mayogall is to the centre of Gulladuff so it's understandable those living in Mayogall might give residence as Gulladuff-
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/loughinsholin/maghera/moyagall/
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Re: Anne Hatton/McElhatton b.c.1836
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 02 September 18 09:08 BST (UK) »
That was my thinking, aghadowey but checking the census seems to be Henry’s own writing and it definitely says County. Someone else may have completed  it though.
There are Hatton baptisms to about 4 families 1850s and 60s in the parish and some marriages.
The Magees are in Gulladuff townland in 1901 whilst the Hattons are in next townland, Mayogall.
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Re: Anne Hatton/McElhatton b.c.1836
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 02 September 18 09:25 BST (UK) »
My grandfather's illiterate grandmother living with her blind son filled out and signed the 1901 census form but the handwriting was identical to that of her very literate brother living in the next house  ;)

Lavey Chapel baptisms from their website which might make it easier to find the children in the register-
? 1853 Jane/John Hatton/Mallon
1853 Mary Hatton
1853 Hugh Hatton
1856 Edward Hatton
1856 Daniel Hatton
1857 Bernard McElhatton/Hatton
1858 Brigid Hatton
1859 Mary McElhatton
1860 Brigid Hatton
1861 James Hatton
1861 James Hatten
1862 Bernard McElhatton
1863 Ann Hatton, Mayogall
1863 James Hatton
1865 Eliza Jane Hatton, Rocktown
1867 Thomas Hattin, Mayogall
1869 Margret McElhatton, Mayogall
1869 John Hatton, Mayogall
1869 Brigid Hatten, Mayogall
1871 Brigid Hatten, Mayogall
1872 Thomas Hatton, Mayogall
1872 Maria Anna Hatton, Mayogall
1872 James Hatton, Mayogall
1873 ? McElhatton/Hatton, Mayogall
1877 Catherine Hatton, Mayogall
1877 Sarah Joanna Hattan, Drumlamph
1878 Margaret Hatton, Mayogall
1884 Anna Maria Hatton, Mayogall
1884 Jacobus Franciseus Hatten, Mayogall
1895 Patrick Hatton, Mayogall
1897 Mary Hatten, Knockloughrim
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Re: Anne Hatton/McElhatton b.c.1836
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 02 September 18 10:37 BST (UK) »
Griffiths Valuation (1850s) shows the name as McHatton

https://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/derry/maghera.htm

More information here re GV and maps http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

These first names occur as fathers’ names in the 1850s parish records. I had already looked to see if Ann was perhaps a sponsor or witness but didn’t find any reference. I might have missed her though as the writing is not the best   ;)

As already posted Lavey baptisms
http://www.laveyparish.com/laveybaptisms.html

Contributors to Lavey Chapel
http://www.laveyparish.com/smhis2.htm

Anne was perhaps born too early for parish records which seem to start 1837 so difficult to say whether all these Hattons etc are her extended family or not.

The witness to the 1911  marriage would favour this premise though.
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Re: Anne Hatton/McElhatton b.c.1836
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 02 September 18 20:43 BST (UK) »
Wow thanks so much everyone for the replies. A lot of info to take in and sort through!

Maybe you'll be able to help me one more thing, I would just like your opinion on.

John Magee married Mary Anne Downey on 25 April 1911, in Lavey. John is residing in Gulladuff and Mary in Drummuck (sp?). Mary's father is listed as David Downey (Farmer), and it does not say that he is deceased at this time. I've also found a marriage for who I believe to be Mary's sister, Catherine in 1903 to Bernard Convery (Father's name, David Downey (Farmer))

Mary Anne Magee died 27th August 1965, aged 88 years so from that I deduced that her year of birth was roughly 1876. 

The only birth i have been able to find is of a Mary Anne Downing on 6th September 1876 to David Downing & Mary Devlin. David is the son of John Downing & Mary the daughter of Patrick Devlin.

There is a David Downey, who died 24th May 1921 in Drummack (sp?) aged 70, a Widower and Farmer, son David was present. I have found 5 births for David Downing & Mary Devlin including Mary Anne & Catherine.

Do you think David Downey, and David Downing... are the same people? Maybe just an error taken down or a name change at some point.

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Re: Anne Hatton/McElhatton b.c.1836
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 02 September 18 20:50 BST (UK) »
Wow thanks so much everyone for the replies. A lot of info to take in and sort through!

Maybe you'll be able to help me one more thing, I would just like your opinion on.

 
 

Do you think David Downey, and David Downing... are the same people? Maybe just an error taken down or a name change at some point.


Are they there on 1911 Cenus?
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