Hillock(s)/Hillick(s) research - is it possible researching pre 1808?

[grahamd15]

Hi everyone,
I'm researching the Hillick/Hillock family and have gotten a lot of help in these forums before so was hoping to try again. In my research I have one James Hillock who was born approx. 1808 in Co. Armagh, I gleaned this from a Scottish death certificate and was wondering if it is possible to research Irish ancestors before this date?

The family was Catholic and moved to Scotland around 1856. James' parents were called James and Ann. On the death certificate James was listed as a farmer, no maiden name present for Ann.

His wife, called Helen/Ellen/Eleanor Keating was born approx 1807 most likely in Co. Armagh again. Her parents were listed a Michael O'Kittins (farmer) and Helen, again no maiden name given.

They were married in Derrynoose on 20 April 1829.

So my main question for this is whether or not it is possible to find out more about their families in the 18th-early 19th century.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[noseyjosey]

You could look at the Irishgenealogy hub website and consult the Tithe Records of 1827 approx for Armagh. You should be able to see where there were Hillocks/Hillicks, particularly a James.
Its probably not useful but there were definitely people of that name in the Armagh Parish Catholic records which start 1796 or a bit earlier. You would need a Rootsireland subscription or take the time to search  the Armagh Catholic records online at www.nli.ie. It is time consuming and the microfilm isn't always legible but it is free! Though your Hillocks were in Derrynoose they might have originated nearer Armagh City.

[aghadowey]

Here's the link to Armagh Catholic Parish registers (transcriptions can be full of errors so usually best to go throught the originals)- https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0184

[BallyaltikilliganG]

John Grenham https://www.johngrenham.com/findasurname.php?surname=hillock
has further information and variant spelling


1796
Flax Growers of Ireland, 1796 - County Armagh
Hillocks              Andrew               Tynan                 Armagh
1813   
Return of the Registered Freeholders of £20 and 40 shillings. Barony of Tiranny.
source PRONI  ecatalogue ref ARM/5/2/8.
446HillockAndrewTullyglushkeanEarl Of Caledon1818?

1823-1837 
Tithes Applotment Books Hillock, Hillicks, Hillocks etc  to glean the sort of information see an Hillock example in Co Monaghan http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625684/004625684_00130.pdf
based upon the index work of the Irish Genealogy Hub’s listing for each parish
The relevant original books are in the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) Belfast. the information is a one liner describing their quality of land. it normally only refera to the tenant. It is a biased record.

Hillock, Andrew-- Townland : Mowillian Year : 1825-      Derrynoose-Armagh
Hillock, William-- Townland : Drumgar Year : 1825-      Derrynoose-Armagh

Hillock, Alexander-- Townland : Drumsollan Lower Year:1833-   Eglish-Armagh
Hillock, James-- Townland : Bracknagh Year:1833-      Eglish-Armagh
Hillock, James-- Townland : Dressaga Year:1833-         Eglish-Armagh
Hillock, William-- Townland : Cullintrough Year:1833-      Eglish-Armagh

Hillock, James-- Townland: Outlack Year: 1832-         Lisnadill-Armagh

Hillock, Andrew-Townland: Tullyglush Kean Year: 1827-   Tynan-Armagh
Hillock, Robert-Townland: Corfeighan Year: 1827-      Tynan-Armagh
Hillock, Thomas-Townland: Killylea Town Year: 1827-      Tynan-Armagh
Hillock, Thomas-Townland: Killylea Townland Year: 1827-   Tynan-Armagh
some of these are comparable if you change irish acress to english acres in Griffiths
valuation via the askaboutireland website which also has the map locations showing boundaries etc

I will add in Keating from the tithes to help
Keating, Charles-- Townland: Lislea Year: 1832-Lisnadill-Armagh
Keating, Cormick-- Townland: Racerbry Year: 1825-Keady-Armagh
Keating, Francis-- Townland: Crossdaned Year: 1825-Keady-Armagh
Keating, Hu.-- Townland: Lisdrumard Year: 1832-Lisnadill-Armagh
Keating, James-- Townland : Maghery Year : 1825-Derrynoose-Armagh-
Keating, Mary-- Townland: Clea Year: 1825-Keady-Armagh
Keating, Michl.-- Townland : Maghery Year : 1825-Derrynoose-Armagh
Keating, Pat-- Townland: Darkley Year: 1825-Keady-Armagh
Keating, Patrick-- Townland : Shaneglish Year : 1830-Ballymore-Armagh
Keating, Peter-- Townland: Cargacloher Year: 1825-Keady-Armagh
Keating, Widow - Townland: Darkley Year: 1825--Keady-Armagh
Keaton, Ellen T: Broghadoey Y: 1833--Clonfeacle-Armagh

you wanted earlier sources only so I stop. in case your ancestry were also other christian denominations, The Guide to existing church records is downloadable as a pdf from PRONI website
Goodluck in your quest