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Pontllanfraith, Wales Church or other local Records
« on: Wednesday 05 September 18 17:49 BST (UK) »
William (1886) and Fanny (1882) Tithecott of Springfield Cottages Llanarth road in Pontllanfraith 1914-1925-likely attended the Wesleyan or similar church in Pontllanfraith. William was a Haulier in a nearby Colliery. Would there still be records: of William and Fanny and their children: Fred abt 1910, Daisy abt 1914, Annie (Nancy) 1916, William (Bill) 1920?

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Re: Pontllanfraith, Wales Church or other local Records
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 September 18 18:51 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Welcome to Rootschat  :)
William, Fanny and Fred appear to be in Bideford, Devon in 1911.
www.freebmd.org.uk  would appear to have Frederick Vernon Tithecott born Dec quarter 1909 in Bideford, Annie M and William J born 1916 and 1920 mmn Trick born Newport Mon registration district.
William Tithecott and Fanny Trick married in Torrington Devon 1908
Can t find Daisy at the moment
The 1939 register available on Findmypast and I think Ancestry could give their dates of birth.
Apologies if you know all this already.
Are you just interested in that timeframe and records just from Pontlanfraith?
If so someone on here possibly might be able to help.
Cathy
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Re: Pontllanfraith, Wales Church or other local Records
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 September 18 19:46 BST (UK) »
Annie Tithecott has a interesting middlename in her GRO birth registration

TITHECOTT, ANNIE  MINNELLA     TRICK     
GRO Reference: 1916  S Quarter in NEWPORT (MON.) 
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Pontllanfraith, Wales Church or other local Records
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 05 September 18 20:38 BST (UK) »
I wonder!

"Daisy Belle Perry, she was born February 6, 1915 in Monmouthshire, Wales. She was a bondservant & came to Canada from Wales in 1923 with William & Fanny Tithecott."

"Daisy Bell Parry was born Feb 6,1915 at or near Pontllanfraith,Monmouthshire,Wales to an unwed mother.She was "given" to William & Fanny Tithecott circa 1915 and then they emigrated to Canada."

What her birth registration might have been is mysterious!


Although bond servant could imply she wanted to be with the family.

Maybe?
PERRY, ISABEL       JAMES     
GRO Reference: 1915  D Quarter in NEWPORT (MON.) 
Update: ruled out dies in 1915 aged 0.
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
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Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Pontllanfraith, Wales Church or other local Records
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 05 September 18 20:47 BST (UK) »
You have this record?

Daisy Tithecott going to Canada on the "Canopic".
Birth Year 1915
Age 10
The ship left from Liverpool in 1925 and arrived at Halifax

All the other Tithecott children you mention are on the "Canopic" as well
Perhaps the family informally took her on/adopted her and they couldn't very well travel with a Daisy Perry aged 10, it would have looked wrong!

DNA from "Daisy Belle Perry" could be quite interesting!



Wemyss/Crombie/Laing (West Wemyss)
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Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Pontllanfraith, Wales Church or other local Records
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 September 18 21:08 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Yes, I'm specifically interested in anything on Daisy Tithecott 1914-1925 in Pontllanfraith, Wales. There will surely be school records and likely some traces of Church records connected with the William and Fanny Tithecott family. The first reference, sent to me some time ago, listing Daisy's birthdate is at her initial entrance to the Pontllanfraith infant's school on 9 April 1918. Her birthdate was listed as 6 May 1914. What I'm looking for is some corroborating evidence of her birthdate and additional information from Pontllanfraith (girls department) school, Church or other local records so I can begin looking for a birth certificate. As far as I can tell, the 20 March 1925 Canopic ship manifest lists Daisy's age as 10 but does not give the actual birthdate. I do know that Daisy was never adopted by the Tithecott's although they raised her from infancy to adulthood. It is true she Daisy used the surname Perry on some legal documents after she was 21. So the Perry surname is one I'm pursuing. But for now, I'm looking for specific help with traces of Daisy 1914-1925 in Pontllanfraith, Wales. The home location was with William and Fanny Tithecott at Springfield, Llanarth Road, Pontllanfraith. (Springfield cottages...not sure which # though. Thank you so much!

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Re: Pontllanfraith, Wales Church or other local Records
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 05 September 18 21:31 BST (UK) »
I wonder!

"Daisy Belle Perry, she was born February 6, 1915 in Monmouthshire, Wales. She was a bondservant & came to Canada from Wales in 1923 with William & Fanny Tithecott."

Although bond servant would imply she wanted to be with the family.

Maybe?
PERRY, ISABEL       JAMES     
GRO Reference: 1915  D Quarter in NEWPORT (MON.)

Probably not

Isabel Perry
Age at Death:    0
Oct-Nov-Dec 1915    Newport Vol11a p336

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Re: Pontllanfraith, Wales Church or other local Records
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 06 September 18 02:37 BST (UK) »
How about this one?

Births Jun 1914   
PARRY    Sophia    PARRY    Newport M.    11a   668

(Mother's name Parry?)

In the GRO the mother's maiden name is blank

PARRY, SOPHIA       -
GRO Reference: 1914  J Quarter in NEWPORT (MON.)  Volume 11A  Page 668

Hi,
Yes, I'm specifically interested in anything on Daisy Tithecott 1914-1925 in Pontllanfraith, Wales. There will surely be school records and likely some traces of Church records connected with the William and Fanny Tithecott family. The first reference, sent to me some time ago, listing Daisy's birthdate is at her initial entrance to the Pontllanfraith infant's school on 9 April 1918. Her birthdate was listed as 6 May 1914. What I'm looking for is some corroborating evidence of her birthdate and additional information from Pontllanfraith (girls department) school, Church or other local records so I can begin looking for a birth certificate. As far as I can tell, the 20 March 1925 Canopic ship manifest lists Daisy's age as 10 but does not give the actual birthdate. I do know that Daisy was never adopted by the Tithecott's although they raised her from infancy to adulthood. It is true she Daisy used the surname Perry on some legal documents after she was 21. So the Perry surname is one I'm pursuing. But for now, I'm looking for specific help with traces of Daisy 1914-1925 in Pontllanfraith, Wales. The home location was with William and Fanny Tithecott at Springfield, Llanarth Road, Pontllanfraith. (Springfield cottages...not sure which # though. Thank you so much!

Guess we need to keep hunting .....

Wemyss/Crombie/Laing (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Pontllanfraith, Wales Church or other local Records
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 06 September 18 04:20 BST (UK) »
John and Sophia Parry married 1866 then lived in Blackwood, Newport so likely Sophia Parry (born to maiden name Parry in Newport 1914) was a decendant (granddaughter?)

There is a Margaret Parry born in 1869 in Pontllanfraith (husband unknown) perhaps she is your Parry/Perry link to Pontllanfraith?

Margaret Eleanor Parry born 1896 in Blackwood, mothers maiden name Williams would have been about 19 years in 1915 - a suspect for Sophia Parry's mother perhaps?


Wemyss/Crombie/Laing (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)