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What happened to Mary Ann Sumner after 1851?
« on: Saturday 08 September 18 09:24 BST (UK) »
Mary Ann Sumner was born on 20 April 1836 in Bishops Stortford, daughter of James Sumner and his wife Ann nee Livermore. In 1841 she is with her parents in New Town Bishops Stortford. Her mother died in 1842 (buried 19 Feb) and James remarried. In 1851 she is with father James, stepmother Elizabeth (nee Ive she is the second stepmother - Ann and Austen have different mmn to James T) and three half siblings (Ann, Austen and James Tucker Sumner) in South Street BS. After this she seems to disappear.

Can anyone find her after 1851, please?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: What happened to Mary Ann Sumner after 1851?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 September 18 09:35 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage
4th March 1854 Bishops Stortford
Mary Ann Sumner 18 yrs, father James Sumner and John Parker

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Re: What happened to Mary Ann Sumner after 1851?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 September 18 10:03 BST (UK) »
The marriage was at St Michaelís church and Johnís father was William.
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Re: What happened to Mary Ann Sumner after 1851?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 September 18 10:27 BST (UK) »
Thank you, I missed that. I didn't expect her to marry so young. Her mother married at 17 and she was 8 and half months pregnant at the time!
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: What happened to Mary Ann Sumner after 1851?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 September 18 10:34 BST (UK) »
I canít see them afterwards though.
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Re: What happened to Mary Ann Sumner after 1851?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 September 18 10:54 BST (UK) »
no, neither can I. No children for Parker mmn Sumner except in Blackburn and there is a marriage for a Winifred Sumner with an Isaac Parker on same page in 1851 in Blackburn
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: What happened to Mary Ann Sumner after 1851?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 08 September 18 10:57 BST (UK) »
A John Parker died Q3 1854 in BS district he was 26, could be him
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: What happened to Mary Ann Sumner after 1851?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 08 September 18 11:13 BST (UK) »
Searching for a Mary Ann b 1836 +/- 1 in BS I get a Mary Ann Ive husband Robert Ive b Clare, living in London. Checking mmn of son George I get Sumner. So Mar Ann seems to have remarried to a relative of her step mother.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: What happened to Mary Ann Sumner after 1851?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 08 September 18 11:20 BST (UK) »
Banns
9th November 1856 St Mary, Lambeth
Robert Iíve, bachelor and Mary Ann Parker, widow.

Marriage 30th November 1856
Mary Ann Parker widow - father James Sumner, Fishmonger
Robert Ive, Butcher

Witnesses James Youles and Susannah Youles
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