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From marriage banns to marriage certificate
« on: Saturday 08 September 18 09:28 BST (UK) »
Please can you tell me how to get the index no. I need for my 3 X grandparents marriage certificate.


   I have found the marriage banns for David Evans and Grace Davies but they are for the parish church in Llangeler, Grace is from Penboyr. I would have thought they would have married in Penboyr, Carmarthenshire. The date is 1815.
     I cannot find their marriage on freereg but it's on Ancestry and FindMyPast.
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Re: From marriage banns to marriage certificate
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 September 18 09:33 BST (UK) »
There will not be a certificate;  civil registration did not start until July 1837.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: From marriage banns to marriage certificate
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 September 18 09:35 BST (UK) »
Registration didn't start until July 1837, so I am afraid all you can do is search the Parish Records of the Church in which you think they may have married.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,† Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: From marriage banns to marriage certificate
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 September 18 09:39 BST (UK) »
There may be two parishes involved, the parish of the bride may be different to the parish of the groom. Banns have to be read in both parishes but the wedding is usually in the parish of the bride.
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Re: From marriage banns to marriage certificate
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 September 18 09:40 BST (UK) »
If you look for the Abel Lewis couple on the banns above your one then you can get to the correct parish register for their marriage, all those other couples marriages seem to be there but not yours. 
Side tracked to a friendís very interesting Norfolk families. MORGAN, PRATT, HORNOR, SUCKLING, GLEANE etc. And in London DOWNES, du CROZ, MORGAN (same MORGANs as the Norwich lot)

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Re: From marriage banns to marriage certificate
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 September 18 10:15 BST (UK) »
The Banns were valid for three months so the marriage could have taken place between the 19 April and 18 July. At that time it would be rare for the marriage entry  to show more than if they were widowed or single, and the names of the witnesses, it won't indicate any relationship.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,† Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: From marriage banns to marriage certificate
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 08 September 18 17:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone. I did look up Abel Lewis and following pages up to Nov no luck.
  These are the records for Llangeler and I need to look at the Penboyr records as well, off to post on Carmarthenshire board to see if anyone there knows where to find these online , but I can see a road trip to Aberystwyth in the near future😀

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Re: From marriage banns to marriage certificate
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 08 September 18 17:36 BST (UK) »
marriage is on FreeReg 28 March 1815 in Penboyr, David of Llangeler.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: From marriage banns to marriage certificate
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 08 September 18 17:50 BST (UK) »
baptisms in Penboyr to David & Grace Evans

Hannah bp 30 Jan 1825, David, butcher of Pantycoed
David bp 7 Sep 1828, David, butcher of Pantycoed
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb