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Re: WW1 casualties
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 09 September 18 15:17 BST (UK) »
There is a Mae Woodman aged 66 in New York on the 1930 census, so born c1864.  Husband shown as William G born around 1878, so I guess the headstone could be them?

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRHB-8NJ?i=1&cc=1810731

In 1940 she is recorded as Mary Ann aged 75 (1865), and William is 65 (1875)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89MY-2KTP?i=7&cc=2000219

Looks like they married in 1922 - Mae Sutliff (nee Spatzer) & William G Woodman.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FFRL-MKF

The age difference broadly tallies with the headstone, and Google Maps tell me that Charlotteville NY is only about 10 miles from Harpersfield, but if it's them I don't understand why he is showing as George W when everything else has him as William G. 

Either way, I think we can probably rule it out as being 'your' Mae due to the year of birth.

That 1920 census in Virginia is still intriguing though.
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: WW1 casualties
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 09 September 18 15:24 BST (UK) »
There seem to be various mentions of George Woodman & Mrs. George/Mrs. May Woodman in the South New Berlin Bee of Chenango Co. at www.nyshistoricnewspapers.org.  The last mention I see of George in that paper is from 14 June 1919 - http://nyshistoricnewspapers.org/lccn/sn92061740/1919-06-14/ed-1/seq-8.pdf

There are some mentions from 1918 of Mrs. George Woodman seeing a doctor or being in the hospital, so maybe he didn't include her on the draft registration card because she was sick?

This one from 1920 mentions Mrs. May Woodman of Rome - http://nyshistoricnewspapers.org/lccn/sn92061740/1920-10-02/ed-1/seq-6.pdf  This one from 27 May 1921 mentions a Mrs. May Woodman of Utica - http://nyshistoricnewspapers.org/lccn/sn92061740/1921-08-27/ed-1/seq-7.pdf  This one from 1932 mentions Mrs. May Woodman of Oneida - http://nyshistoricnewspapers.org/lccn/sn92061740/1932-08-25/ed-1/seq-4.pdf  A 1934 mention also puts her in Utica - http://nyshistoricnewspapers.org/lccn/sn92061740/1934-08-17/ed-1/seq-1.pdf

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Re: WW1 casualties
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 09 September 18 16:01 BST (UK) »
Hi there

Thanks for all this, will look into them.

According to the censuses (is that a word?) with George and May/Mae together, (1910 US, 1905 and 1915) they are in New York (New Berlin, Chenango) in all three, and give New York as their birthplace.

Thanks for the info about registration cards, I learn something every day!
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: WW1 casualties
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 09 September 18 16:53 BST (UK) »
You might also want to try search for them (and any other family members you know of) at www.fultonhistory.com or www.fultonsearch.org.  Those sites haven't been working for me lately and I have heard others complaining of the same issue, but it may be at least partially computer-related.  I know they require Adobe Flash, so maybe I need an update or something.


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Re: WW1 casualties
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 09 September 18 17:13 BST (UK) »
According to the obituary for George's father William - http://nyshistoricnewspapers.org/lccn/sn92061740/1917-03-10/ed-1/seq-1.pdf - George has a sister named Dema Sherman. 

According to Dema Sherman's obituary from 3 Sept. 1946 in the Binghamton Press and Sun-Bulletin, she was survived by, among others, brothers Eugene Woodman of Schenectady and George Woodman of Schenevus.

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Re: WW1 casualties
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 09 September 18 17:23 BST (UK) »
I found an obituary for a William George Woodman who lived in Titus Lake (which is about a 20 minute drive from the aforementioned Schenevus) and gives his date of birth as 16 Jun. 1875, which is one year off from the date on the WWI draft registration card.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23580403/william_george_woodman_obituary

The New York death index lists this man as William G Woodman, age 84, died Harpersfield, Delaware Co., New York on 21 Mar. 1960, Certificate Number 17428. 

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Re: WW1 casualties
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 09 September 18 17:29 BST (UK) »
I found an obituary for a William George Woodman who lived in Titus Lake (which is about a 20 minute drive from the aforementioned Schenevus) and gives his date of birth as 16 Jun. 1875, which is one year off from the date on the WWI draft registration card.

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/23580403/william_george_woodman_obituary

The New York death index lists this man as William G Woodman, age 84, died Harpersfield, Delaware Co., New York on 21 Mar. 1960, Certificate Number 17428. 

 ???

Obit states his burial will be in the Charlotteville Cemetery, which possibly makes him the one on Find-a-Grave and probably married Mae Sutliff (nee Spatzer) in 1922.  I think!
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: WW1 casualties
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 09 September 18 17:31 BST (UK) »
Perhaps its the same man married to two different women named Mae   ???
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: WW1 casualties
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 09 September 18 17:44 BST (UK) »
Have done some more research - George’s May was a Woodworth when they married.

Dema looks to have started life as Lodema. According to census other siblings are Ida, Clara, William David (sometimes reversed), Eugene, and Elizabeth.
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?