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Offline Ladyhawk

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Re: Ernest Bowthorpe
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 08 September 18 18:30 BST (UK) »
There are also these records

Ernest Banthorpe, occ Fisherman, next of kin sister Dora
Birth year   1886 St James Norwich
Service number   5006
Regiment   Norfolk Regiment
Year   1903
Attestation date   14 Jan 1903 Attestation age years   17yrs 10months
Attestation service number   5006 Attestation corps   Norfolk Regiment
Discharge corps   Norfolk Regiment

Ernest W J Banthorpe Year   1914-20
Service number   47891, 245755, 148967
Second service number   245755 Third service number   148967
Rank   Private,Private,Private Second rank   Private Third rank   Private
Regiment   Northamptonshire Regiment, Manchester Regiment, Machine Gun Corps
Second corps   Manchester Regiment Third corps Machine Gun Corps
Service record   Soldier Number: 47891, Rank: Private, Corps: Northamptonshire Regiment
Second service record   Soldier Number: 245755, Rank: Private, Corps: Manchester Regiment
Third service record   Soldier Number: 148967, Rank: Private, Corps: Machine Gun Corps
Next of kin father James , 15 Anchor Street St James Norwich
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Re: Ernest Bowthorpe
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 08 September 18 19:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Ernest W J Banthorpe had a sister Dora May b March qtr 1894 Norwich mmn Kedge, the parents marriage looks to be:-

James Banthorpe to Florence Kedge March qtr 1887.
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PS a Florence Banthorpe dies March qtr 1894 Norwich aged 24
1891 census RG12/1522/52/23
Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: Ernest Bowthorpe
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 08 September 18 20:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all help on Ernest Bowthorpe. Unfortunately, I don't think any of them fit. He did marry Florence and I think he was killed in the war. His mother died in about 1886 not long after he was born. His father was William and he had a brother  Charles and a brother William. Frustratingly I cannot find his birth!

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Re: Ernest Bowthorpe
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 08 September 18 20:16 BST (UK) »
Which Florence did your Ernest marry, and what’s the source of information about his birth family and his wartime death?

Did he and Florence have any children? 
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Ernest Bowthorpe
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 08 September 18 20:23 BST (UK) »
Any connection to Thomas Bowthorpe, on your other thread?

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=799814.msg6573164#msg6573164
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Ernest Bowthorpe
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 08 September 18 20:31 BST (UK) »

only Ernest Bowthorpe b Norfolk was born 1892 Norwich and a Soldier in 1911?


Is this the same person?
No age given

Ernest Bowthorpe
Year   1914-20
Service number   7952, 312123 Second service number   312123
Rank   Corporal,Corporal Second rank   Corporal
Regiment   Norfolk Regiment, Royal Engineers
Second corps   Royal Engineers
Service record   Soldier Number: 7952, Rank: Corporal, Corps: Norfolk Regiment
Second service record Soldier Number: 312123, Rank: Corporal, Corps: Royal Engineers

Serjeant Major BOWTHORPE, E
Service Number 312123 Died 02/09/1917
Depot, Special Bde.  Royal Engineers

According to the register of effects his widow & sole legatee was Florence. So this could be our man

Apparently died of self inflicted wounds, sad to say

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Re: Ernest Bowthorpe
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 08 September 18 21:21 BST (UK) »
If the birth family information is correct, he may have been born Ernest GOOK c 1892; see this household in 1901:

38 Sun Lane, Norwich

William BOWTHORPE Head Wid 46 Shoemaker Gt Yarmouth
Charles do Son S 18 Wood sawyer Norwich
Mary GOOK wid 48 housekeeper Norwich
Francis do 23 lodger Norwich
Ernest do 9 lodger Norwich <<<
Sidney do 6 lodger Norwich
Walter do 37 lodger Norwich

RG13/1838/63/14
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Ernest Bowthorpe
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 08 September 18 21:25 BST (UK) »
Birth reg: Ernest William Bowthorpe GOOK (no mmn indexed), Sep qtr 1891 Norwich 4b 127
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Ernest Bowthorpe
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 08 September 18 21:25 BST (UK) »
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Sidney's middle name was also Bowthorpe