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High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« on: Sunday 09 September 18 04:13 BST (UK) »
Hi people,

this thread grows out of some research done in a previous thread under my name on this topic.
I will link back to it in a moment when I can get hold of the link.

So my great grandfather lived in High House with his children circa 1920.
I think I once saw a notification that it is listed as a heritage site.
Aerial photography and comparison with old maps shows that the house is the same shape and size as it was a hundred years ago, when my family were there. It has a large section that looks as though it once had a barn or stables on it.

The house is on Monkton Lane opposite a new road called Cheviot Rd, a few kilometres from Hebburn. Be warned that Monkton Lane is a curious street broken in about three places, so it may be hard to locate the house if you are using Google Maps.

I am interested in knowing a bit more about the house; ownership, tenancy, especially if it is close to the time that my Coulson ancestors were there, circa 1920.



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David C




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Re: High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 September 18 04:19 BST (UK) »
The previous discussion was in here.
Relevant part is on page 7 - ish.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=799848.msg6575730#msg6575730


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Re: High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 September 18 04:20 BST (UK) »
David, I don't know if it will help, but can you provide the names of the people who were living there please (assuming they are deceased and you are willing to give their names)?

It may already have been mentioned on your other thread, but how do you know they were there in the 20s?  :)

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Re: High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 09 September 18 05:41 BST (UK) »
My ancestors for this period in time were ..

* William Sanderson Coulson (1864-1922)
* wife Jane (nee Sewell) (1864-1949)
* Daughter Mary Ann (Minnie) born 1889
* Son Freddy born 1895
* Son Harry born 1905
* Daughter May born 1908
Possibly still staying there in the early days
* Daughter Lily born 1901 (spelling varies)
* Daughter Jane Sewell Coulson born 1898 (Janny and later Jean)
* Son Thomas Smith Coulson (more on him below)

Indications that they lived at High House circa 1920
* My deceased uncle makes this claim in notes he put together in the 1990s. Whether he got this from his parents or through genealogical research is unknown.
* High House is given as a residence for Mary Ann when she marries in 1920.

My uncle (Eric, son of Thomas Smith Coulson) claims he was born in a different address (Till St) in 1921, a house in Hebburn owned by his mother's father. Therefore my grandfather Thomas Smith Coulson had moved there by that date. My grandparents married in Aug 1919 and it is possible that they moved into Till St immediately though this is just conjecture.

A chill has just run down my spine as i review what i have just written because it places confidence in what my uncle has written, when in fact his only evidence may be Minnie's wedding cert.

Could it be that Minnie was a domestic servant in this house at the time and called it her home?
In that case William and his other children could have been anywhere.. 

-DC


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Re: High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 09 September 18 08:31 BST (UK) »
High House street view https://goo.gl/maps/opxmWxQw8et
3D view https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.9653828,-1.500492,127a,35y,262.08h,45t/data=!3m1!1e3

This is the Post Code NE32 5NP to enter into maps.
Stan
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Re: High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 September 18 10:29 BST (UK) »
Here are some documents that could verify that the Coulsons stayed in this house and help specify the years they were there:

* Marriage cert for Joseph Coulson, I think 1917 from memory. Joseph is the son of William.
* Marriage cert for Thomas Smith Coulson from 1919.
* Birth certs for the children of Joseph Coulson & of Minnie Coulson (I have names and dates)
It seems to me that if the house is big, some of the married children might have stayed with the father, assuming everybody got along.
* Passenger list for Harry Coulson in 1927 migrating to NZ. His last residence would be written.
* Death cert for William Coulson 1922

Lily and Jane both married in the 1940s, probably in London.
May married away from home, in Gloucestershire.


Stan, those 3D images are awesome, really bring the territory to life.

-DC

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Re: High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 September 18 11:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the additional information David. I hope it helps. :)

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Re: High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 09 September 18 12:00 BST (UK) »
Harry Coulson left England in 1927. His last address in the UK was ....

....54 Jutland Ave, Hebburn.

I see from NLS that this street did not exist in 1914.
It occupies what was then an empty space just next to the new town.

His brother, Thomas Smith Coulson, left UK in 1924 from ...

... 66 Campbell Street.

Not sure where this is. Could this be Campbell Park Rd?

There is no way to tell whether the family stayed as a unit and moved to both or either of these later addresses or whether the family fragmented and the boys went boarding.

It demonstrates once again that the Coulsons moved around a lot!

The boys probably needed to be in town close to where they worked.

If the girls went into domestic service (as family folklore says), and their father died in 1922, and the boys moved to houses in town to be close to work, then there really is noone left to take care of the property at Monkton. It makes a good case for the family's stay in Monkton terminating soon after the death of the father.

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Re: High House in Monkton, near Hebburn - history of the house & property?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 September 18 12:25 BST (UK) »
While digging through my downloaded files, I came across an archaeological survey of Monkton written in 2009 that I had downloaded and later forgotten I had.

I will attach three images for your reference:

01 - title page so that anyone who's interested can trace the report back to its source. This is a very thorough examination of the history of Monkton that goes back to the time of Bede. This far exceeds my own interest in the town but others interested in Monkton would probably find this report very useful.

02 - paragraph from page 14 that describes the residents of Monkton circa 1925.
It refers to Kellys 1925 directory.

03 - One of two parts where High House is mentioned. Here it is described as a grade 2 'listed' building. (The other part is n the appendix where an HER code is attached to the house as well as map references).

** Can someone help me to find and get into the 1925 Kellys directory for this part of the country? It might mention the Coulson family by name.