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Witness
« on: Monday 10 September 18 06:38 BST (UK) »
Hi am trying to find out how the second witness is on Eliza Hayes and Samuel Phillips marriage in Birmingham England in 1869.
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Re: Witness
« Reply #1 on: Monday 10 September 18 07:10 BST (UK) »
It's really small and a bit blurry even when enlarged. Can you rescan it bigger and clearer?

Almost impossible to see but it doesn't look much like either of those names.

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Re: Witness
« Reply #2 on: Monday 10 September 18 07:13 BST (UK) »
Mary Ann Mellor??


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Re: Witness
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 September 18 07:16 BST (UK) »
Mary Ann Nellor  :-\
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Re: Witness
« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 September 18 07:25 BST (UK) »
There’s a Maryann NOLLER, wife of John NOLLER on FamilySearch.

Possibly married in 1848 as Mary Ann Allen. FREEBMD.

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Re: Witness
« Reply #5 on: Monday 10 September 18 07:54 BST (UK) »
Could it be?

Marriages Jun 1870 Birmingham 6d 44 Bartholomew HAYES to Mary Ann MELLEY

1871 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5YT-TDC

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Re: Witness
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 September 18 08:06 BST (UK) »
I see neither Collins nor Wall.  ???

There are a number of "e" examples in the image, all nice and rounded and clear. The second letter in the word we are looking at doesn't look the same, though - it looks more like an "i".

I was wondering if the name was Miller, but the "M" is not quite like the one at the beginning of Mary Ann...

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Re: Witness
« Reply #7 on: Monday 10 September 18 08:26 BST (UK) »
Could it be?

Marriages Jun 1870 Birmingham 6d 44 Bartholomew HAYES to Mary Ann MELLEY

1871 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5YT-TDC

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Same signature for Bartholomew on this marriage. Mary Ann Melley made her mark on the cert.

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Re: Witness
« Reply #8 on: Monday 10 September 18 08:28 BST (UK) »
Snip from 1870 marriage.

So looks as if the cleric wrote the wrong surname.

Added - Bartholomew and Mary Ann's first child, Emily Ada, Q3 1871, has mmn as Melley.
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