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Re: Hurn Herons Hearns Youngs
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 17 February 19 16:55 GMT (UK) »

Just something to look out for, in the record of Eva Heron up in court at Nottingham, look how she as the same solicitor as Emily Bacon on the record below hers, i have found many records by just researching Mr. R. A. Young, he has been associated with many court proceeding involving several Gipsy names, he has evan prosecuted them to, this is another way of researching, if you just find the name say of a Street or a Yard, go hard on researching just that name, information does turn up.

 Tuesday 13 March 1883
  Bolton Evening News

 At Bradford on Monday, before Colonel Pollard and other magistrates, Delia Young, a gipsy, of whom it was stated that her family had been gipsies for 'generations, coming originally from Bohemia, was charged with fortune-telling. For some weeks prisoner, with a number of other gipsies, had been staying at a village named Wyke, and hundreds of persons, had visited her. Her fees ranged from 1s. to 5s., the latter sum being charged when a planet was ruled. She told the wife of a police-sergeant that it would not be safe to elope with a man to America unless he married her first, and to a servant she gave a written warranty, and told her that she was suffering from a discontented mind. It was given in evidence that her earnings must average several guineas a day for many weeks. For the defence it was noted that prisoner and her family had told fortunes at Blackpool during the season for twenty years. She was fined £5 and costs.

Ps. In the Newspaper the st James Gazette  Monday 12 March 1883 County London,  it was stated that the alternative to paying the fine was two months in prison, the fine was payed.

Monday 05 February 1923
 Nottingham Evening Post

         WITH PAPER.
      “UNDER A SPELL.”


The sequel to a vanished £1 note, was heard at the Nottingham Guildhall to-day. when Eva Heron. 21, described as a caravan-dweller, was charged with stealing from a woman by means of a trick. The defendant, came to see her on January 26th, telling her that her sister said there was a big event in her life that she ought know of. Witness replied that she did not wish to know, but accused  persisted in telling her. and asked her put a piece silver into her (witness) own hand. When witness replied that she had no 'silver but only notes, defendant offered to change some. Going into the front room the young woman followed her. and told her to lay a 10s. note on her hand. Again witness complied. Proceeding to talk about witnesses husband, who was in hospital, defendant suggested that the 10s. should be replaced by a £1 note, telling witness to look into her eyes when she spoke of her husband.  When accused left the house the £1 note went with her. It was her intention to give her 6d. as she was so persistent, but she never meant to part with the £1 as it was housekeeping money. Answering Mr. R. A. Young, who defended, witness denied that defendant said "if you give me £1 I will tell you everything.”
P.s. dunkerley, who traced accused to a gipsy encampment near the Shoulder of Mutton Inn, Basford. said that when questioned the woman replied, I will tell the truth. I did have the £1 note, but will pay it back. “I took to buy clothes for my unborn  baby. Do the best you can for me.” At Hyson Green police station, in answer to the charge, she said. “Truth is truth . I did take the money and I am sorry and I will pay it back if you will let me. But the Lady was willing.”
Mr. Young said there was nothing previously against defendant, and argued that complainant  parted with her money willingly. If accused paid the money back, he suggested the Bench should put her on probation, with the additional understanding that she did not indulge in fortune-telling. The. Chairman (Ald. J. E. Pendleton, who was accompanied by Mrs, Dowson) considered the charge proved and that defendant exercised a spell over the woman. Who was evidently highly strung. As however, there was nothing against her previously, defendant would be placed on probation for three years, in addition to refunding the £1. and paying 10s. costs  Accused told the magistrates she would never tell fortunes again.

Small extracts below to show the same Solicitor as above, this Solicitors old records may hold many hidden records, he as represented several Gipsy family's over the yeares, there must be in Nottingham an archive of the family history of Youngs Solicitors.

Monday 14 October 1901
  Sheffield Daily Telegraph
  South Yorkshire 

  WOMAN'S EXTRAORDANARY GULLIBILITY.  A remarkable case of fortune-telling stated at the Nottingham Shire Hall when an old gipsy-woman, named Emily Bacon, was charged 

Saturday 24 April 1909
  Nottingham Evening Post

  A charge of pretending and professing to tell fortunes, was preferred at the Nottingham Police-court to-day against a woman aged 60, named Emily Bacon, hawker, of no fixed abode. Mr. R. A. Young, defended. 
 Saturday 01 December 1894
  Leicester Chronicle

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