Door/Dore family of Leicester.

[Taylor94]

Ive posted about this family before but wondered if anyone could perhaps shed some reasoning's on what is going on.

My 3rd grt grandmother is Selena Door/Doors/Dore. She marries James Kirby 8 Mar 1875 Leicester.
She lists her father as DAVID DOORS. Her birthdate is given as 1855.
This is where I'm having the conundrum.
Selena's mother is Caroline Hubbard, she marries David Doors 1842 Leicester and have the following children by 1851 census - 
Charlotte Door born 1842 Leicester
Frederick Door born 1844 Leicester
Jane Door born 1850??? Leicester???
Charlotte and Frederick both have birth GRO records but there is nothing for this Jane.
In 1861 Charlotte and Jane have disappeared but a Selena and Catherine Doors have appeared and both have birthdates of around 1852/1854.
Charlotte marries in 1862.
David Doors dies in 1851 so these 2 children cant be his but Selena lists her father as David Doors on her marriage.
Selena's birth GRO is registered 1853 but could Selena be this Jane from the 1851 census?
Caroline seems to baptise Frederick, Catherine and Selena together in 1854 but Frederick was alredy baptised in 1844 so why baptise children again in St Margarets when one was already bapt in St George? Is this the case of two illegitimate children, Selena and Catherine? or were they born but not baptised and registered till after David died in 1851?

[lizdb]

There is this birth:

Jul/Aug/Sep 1850
Leicester
15 105

Kitty Door   mmn Hubbard


If Selina was born 1853, then there is no way she could be on 1851 census, as Jane or as anything else!

[Taylor94]

Hmm I wonder if that is Catherine? Pet name as Kitty? On the 1851 census there is only Frederick, Charlotte and what looks to be a daughter Jane. This Jane disappears after 1851 no birth record or burial. Catherine is bapt 1854 along side Fred and Selena, Maybe this is Kitty but not baptised until later and Jane is Selena but not registered or bapt till later? Selena lists her father as David even though he died in 1851 and on census she says she is born 1853-1855.

[lizdb]

Births should be registered within 6 weeks, so highly unlikely that Selina would not be registered for so long.

[Taylor94]

This is what I thought, It seems Selina was baptised twice. Once on her own in 1853 and then again in 1854 with Frederick and Catherine in the same Church by the same Vicar.
I think Selina might be Illegitimate as dates don't add up for her birth of around 1853 and David's death in 1851. Although if that is the case, Why did she list her father as David Doors? Didn't want to seem illegitimate?

[lizdb]

There is no mothers maiden name given in the gro index for Selina.  That usually indicates illegitimacy, in that the mother isn't married.
In this case however, with Selina being given the same surname as her mother (Doors) that is of course her mums married name, and her mum DOES therefore have a maiden name to give!

We dont know what Selina was told about her father - maybe her mum just told all the children that "Dad" was Mr David Doors who had died when they were little.  Even if the truth was that she had had a fling/s with someone else after his death.

[lizdb]

There is also this birth -

Ap/May/Jun 1848
Leicester
15 80

John Doer  mmn Hubbard

[Taylor94]

Hmm I wonder who that John is then. The 1851 census definitely lists last child as a Daughter and looks to be Jane.