French GGGGrandmother

[tancor1]

the names of the two sons born in France are
Francis born 1823 died 1843 Hemel Hempstead
Thomas born 1826
Both we think in Calais.

[tancor1]

my 3x ggrandfather was born in surrey in 1790,and was a soldier royal wagon train.
and his parent were James Lovett and Frances Wesson.so  you have found her.
so grateful thanks you all who have helped to finally break down my brick wall.

[davidqueneherve]

I can't find a death record for Florence DUFRENE.
There is a death record on January 13th 1812 in Tilques in the name of Marie Corentine Florentine DUFRESNE, 40 years old, wife Jacques Joseph DUCROCQ, 38 years old.
She died the day before.
She was a native of Aix-en-Ergny.
Daughter of the late Noël DUFRESNE and the late Marie Antoinette MATOREL

http://archivesenligne.pasdecalais.fr/ark:/64297/d9377fa5169cfc0303c3330f33d35db1

A Joseph DUCROCQ, 23 years old, was a witness at the birth of Claudine Joseph

[davidqueneherve]

https://gw.geneanet.org/dufresneh?n=dufresne&oc=&p=pierre+noel

and https://gw.geneanet.org/vlecuyer?n=dufresne&oc=&p=pierre+noel

[davidqueneherve]

Marie Catherine Florentine DUFRESNE married Jacques Joseph DUCROCQ, a widower, in Tilques on January 17th 1810.

According to her marriage record, she was born on February 22th, 1772 in Aix-en-Ergny.

No proof so far, that she is the same as Florence DUFRENE.

Her widower remarried in 1812 with Marie Jacqueline Françoise HOYEZ. In the marriage record (26/10/1812), his former wife is mentioned as the late Florentine Joseph DUFRESNE.

We can assume that her given name was Florentine.

She gave birth to a son, Jean Baptiste DUCROCQ around 1810

[libbymcm]

I am one of the people searching for the elusive Clotilde and her family. Thank you all for your research and particularly tancort who started with questions. I’m grateful to the two people who have gone to the trouble of researching the query.

Clotilde is my GGGrandmother.

Q1. I am wondering how we can now obtain copies of the marriage certificate and the birth certificates of their children in France. They had two more children in France and then 3 more in England.

Q2. I’m also wondering how we could get birth/death certificates for Clotilde’s parents?

Q3. I’m also wondering why Clotilde would be Claudine on her marriage certificate to George and then ‘Clotilde’ in other records?

This has been a brick wall for our family for so long - we had almost given up!

Thanks to all for assistance.

[davidqueneherve]

Q1 Follow the links given in the previous posts or use this one http://www.archivespasdecalais.fr/Archives-en-ligne/Histoire-d-une-personne/Etat-civil and search for the records

Q2 Read the previous posts

Q3 We can't know for sure. The two given names sound alike and she probably liked Clotilde better.

[tancor2]

I am going back to an old subject of my Lovett relations, but as you found the answer to my brick wall about the marriage of George Lovett and the french connection, i was wonder if anyone can find a  birth date for my 2x ggrandfather Thomas born in Calais in about 1826, thought when i found his death in Colne Lancashire it might have given me his date of birth, but it doesn't.
father George Lovett mother Claudine Josephe Marquant

[jorose]

Given the other places associated with this family, Saint-Omer seemed a likely place to find more, and I found these records there:

16 June 1823 (number 389) - a stillborn child:
https://archivesenligne.pasdecalais.fr/v2/ad62/visualiseur/etat_civil.html?id=339077538

3 May 1825 (number 292) - a son George Thomas (probably your 2xgg):
https://archivesenligne.pasdecalais.fr/v2/ad62/visualiseur/etat_civil.html?id=339077538