Will of Alexander Aylmer 1549

[horselydown86]

And 'my dowghter Thetfourth'!!!

For an embarrassingly long while there, I thought, 'That's a strange Christian name'. *facepalm*

Of course, he must be talking about his daughter Frances again!

(Let me know if you think I am being hideously wrong about that.)

You are not wrong.  This is a normal way to reference a married daughter.

And acordinge to a fyne that I levyd for the same afore the late Lorde Bandwoyn by Thomas Mompesson, gent George Presse gent and other

This is very intriguing! I think you are right about that being Judge John Baldwin, Goldie, but what in the world could the fine(?) have been about?

It probably refers to a fine (final agreement) in the Court of Common Pleas, which was a method by which land could be conveyed from one person (or persons) to another.

See the explanation here:    http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mq9/

Further information is here:   http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/index.shtml

By the way, there are a few records of Aylmer Feet of Fines on this most useful site here:

http://search.freefind.com/find.html?pageid=r&id=91886320&query=aylmer&ics=1&fr=10

These records may not go as late as the one referred to in the will, and not all counties are covered.

[horselydown86]

In relation to the judge, it is quite acceptable to read his surname as:  Baudwoyn

It's possible that the third last letter could be an e of form similar to that in Brigett at the top of the snippet.

This would give:  Baudweyn

[WillowG]

Snippets 7 & 8 "And I will my daughter Thetfourth ... ". Is this the married name of the daughter ? Is it meant to be the Thetforth family ? This family seems to have been around West Herling (West Harling), Snitterton (Snetterton), and Thetford.

Of course, I may be totally off the track !
francoso

Oh, no, you are entirely correct! Christopher Thetford of Titleshall in Norfolk, the son of John Thetford of Catishall and Thomazine daughter of John Thwaites of Hardingham in Norfolk, married Frances Aylmer, the daughter of 'Alexander Aylmer of Tanington in Suffolk'.

That must be this Frances Aylmer, and this Alexander Aylmer

Christopher Thetford and Frances Aylmer had loads of children: Jacob, Lancelott, Roger, Francis, John, who married Jaell Bourne, Andrew and Christopher.

This must be the Thetford family that you are referring too!

Frances's sister, Bridgit or Brigett, also mentioned in the will, apparently married a Stephen Rookwood or Rockood.

[WillowG]

In relation to the judge, it is quite acceptable to read his surname as:  Baudwoyn

It's possible that the third last letter could be an e of form similar to that in Brigett at the top of the snippet.

This would give:  Baudweyn

Does this mean that you think it could be Judge John Baldwin too, HD?

[WillowG]

And 'my dowghter Thetfourth'!!!

For an embarrassingly long while there, I thought, 'That's a strange Christian name'. *facepalm*

Of course, he must be talking about his daughter Frances again!

(Let me know if you think I am being hideously wrong about that.)

You are not wrong.  This is a normal way to reference a married daughter.

And acordinge to a fyne that I levyd for the same afore the late Lorde Bandwoyn by Thomas Mompesson, gent George Presse gent and other

This is very intriguing! I think you are right about that being Judge John Baldwin, Goldie, but what in the world could the fine(?) have been about?

It probably refers to a fine (final agreement) in the Court of Common Pleas, which was a method by which land could be conveyed from one person (or persons) to another.

See the explanation here:    http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mq9/

Further information is here:   http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/index.shtml

By the way, there are a few records of Aylmer Feet of Fines on this most useful site here:

http://search.freefind.com/find.html?pageid=r&id=91886320&query=aylmer&ics=1&fr=10

These records may not go as late as the one referred to in the will, and not all counties are covered.

This is super-interesting, and something I had never known before! So this was a simpler (or the only?) way of transferring/selling property?

Previously I had thought that all of the fines and suits were a signal of people being quarrelsome!

[WillowG]

Oh, thank you so much, HD, great work as always!!! What in the world would I have done without you guys? Gotten nowhere with this family, certainly!

Snippet #9

...shall have the kepinge of my cofer of evidence

This sounds vaguely sinister again, but in view of the above, perhaps he simply means his chest of important papers?

And the grete chest colerd redde that was my uncles Thomas Aylemers

I loved this I love these little reminders that these were real people.

a bed and a bedsted a boulster a payer of blankettes a payre of shetes which I woll my dowghter Thetfourth shall have

I loved this too I forgot to post it earlier!

Thank you so much again! I am learning so much about these people, and about these times!

[goldie61]

parte Allso I woll that the fyve Score powndes
to be payed by Christofer Thetfourth my sone
in lawe for my maner called Boylandes in
Tyvetshale in the countie of Norff shall
go unto the mariage of my five dowghters

that ys to saye Bregett Elisabeth Honor Ursula
and Mary equallye to be devided amongest
them Itm I woll that everye of my said dowghters
receyve this my bequest at the daye of their
severall  mariage or ellys at the age of xx th
yeres And yshat fortune anye of my said fyve
dowghters to decease before the she or thei shall


Is that really 'yshat' HD? (too early in the morning!)

[horselydown86]

Is that really 'yshat' HD? (too early in the morning!)

...And yfit fortune... = ...And if it fortune...

[horselydown86]

Does this mean that you think it could be Judge John Baldwin too, HD?

It means I support the interpretation that the reference is to a legal official named Baldwin.  I haven't researched the matter further so have no opinion on whether it is John or another Baldwin.