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Offline innerspark

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I'm a bit stuck
« on: Friday 14 September 18 09:47 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have been following a trail of (now passed) relative's stories and looking at the records...and I'm already a bit stuck!

A man named John Hopper b.1/6/1858 Plymouth  - according to navy records and relative
it seems he married twice 1 - to Ellen Cook in 1880 and 2 - to Florence Helson in 1918

On GRO, there is only 1 John Hopper born in Plymouth in that time, birth registered in 1859, mother's maiden name - Counter

Can anyone find a marriage between a Hopper and a Counter? Or any idea how I can find more information about his parents?

A John Hopper appears on the 1871 Census with William and Mary Ann Hopper, although I can't seem to find a marriage certificate for Wm and Mary

Thank you

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Re: I'm a bit stuck
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14 September 18 10:15 BST (UK) »


1871 RG10 2112 100 p26
Plymouth

William Hopper 62 Mason Devon
Mary A 53     
John 12 b Plymouth     


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« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 September 18 10:25 BST (UK) »
Just a little deviation, and possibly being pedantic:

Marriage number 1 was to Ellen Fook (1880) and marriage number 2 was to Florence M Jones (1918)

Not that I can find either transcription or image of either marriage.  Nor can I see any marriage between Hopper and Counter.  Looking at the marriage entry which [Ray] found James is HOOPER  :-\

A copy of either marriage certificate (John) would probably name his father.

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 September 18 10:31 BST (UK) »
16 August 1854 - South Taunton Tawton (oops!)

James Hooper, 24, bachelor, Labourer of Zeal.  Father:  William, Labourer
Mary Ann Counter, full age, spinster of Zeal.  Father:  William, Mason.

Rebecca Counter is one of the witnesses.

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« Reply #4 on: Friday 14 September 18 10:38 BST (UK) »
16 August 1854 - South Taunton

James Hooper, 24, bachelor, Labourer of Zeal.  Father:  William, Labourer
Mary Ann Counter, full age, spinster of Zeal.  Father:  William, Mason.

Rebecca Counter is one of the witnesses.

1841 265/12/18

James Hooper 10 yrs with William and Mary Hooper and other children (no relationship as 1841)
Address South Zeal Village, South Tawton Parish
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Re: I'm a bit stuck
« Reply #5 on: Friday 14 September 18 10:40 BST (UK) »
Looks like those mentioned by the OP on the 1871, on the 1861:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7TR-8ZD

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 14 September 18 10:42 BST (UK) »
Baptism at South Tawton - 14 March 1830:

James son of William and Mary Hooper of Zeal.  William is a Labourer.
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« Reply #7 on: Friday 14 September 18 10:42 BST (UK) »
Thank you Bumblebee and Heywood!

I was just typing, then I saw your posts...yes, that must be the one

May, I ask how did you find that?

It seems like I always need to check other spellings

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 14 September 18 10:45 BST (UK) »
My way is to look at FreeBMD.  :)
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
Archbell - anywhere, any date
Kendall - WRY
Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY