Ying Tchong, Liverpool Cafe Proprietor, 1949

[whiteout7]

Ultimately it would be good to find Rose Ying and TChong Lings burial place/records as I think they would be deceaced ....

Finding Beryl though would be hard, as a living person her privacy is hers to give up?

There is a Wing Ying Mansion (apartments) in 8 Soares Avenue, Mong Kok, Hong Kong ... Built Year, 1964.

Wouldn't be amazing if it was named after the Wing Ying here and built by his son!

[heywood]

This is very difficult.
You now have to look for...
Arnold Turner with mother Ruth. There is one in 1911.
There does not seem to be a marriage for Arnold and Rose in U.K.
There is possibly a living child in 1939.
Is there a death for Ruth?

You thought initially there were two children. Any reason?

I am assuming that this is a search for an unknown relative. Is that right as you seem to have no knowledge of the family other than names.

[heywood]

Apologies- I missed your reply #44 with additional information.

I have found the relevant birth, thank you.

I also saw the other forum post. It does seem now (as we can’t find any records) that Rose was also perhaps from Hong Kong and married Arnold Turner there.

Do you think that is the case?

[seemex]

I think that's a possibility she was born in Hong Kong or Canton. Her last name was originally Cheung, so she could have come to UK before the war with her family, but again we're faced with the Chinese name situation and because there were so many that were imported to work on the ships, it's hard to know. Many, as I said, came to Liverpool, formed relationships with local women and had children in England. Probably a lot didn't go through formal marriages so it's a guess what sort of status the children ended up having. The ones who were born in UK from those marriages, legal or otherwise, may have been given status by birth? Not sure how it was done then.
I think Arnold Turner and his family are not important other than as a possible link to his wife Rose. It does seem that Rose Ying was back in Liverpool in 1945 as she shows on electors list, but no sign of her husband or daughter

[heywood]

As you say Arnold and family are not important but if he was English and there had been an English marriage and divorce then he would have some significance.
As we can’t find either then was Rose really married; is that her mother in law; did the ceremony and the divorce take place in Hong Kong etc.
The child and husband would not of course appear on the electoral list.
There were no electoral lists during the war so she won’t appear pre marriage.

[seemex]

Wondering about this abbreviation NHA and circled date on the 1939 Register. Rose married Ying on July 1, 1944. Would this be a misprint? and does anyone know what "NHA" stand for?
Maybe "New ___ Added"? Maybe the date that the new marriage data was added to the register?

[heywood]

I would think the marriage date is just an error.
At first I thought NHA might be a reference to the National Health which the registers were used for but I doubt it somehow.

There is a thread here - no mention of your annotation though. Maybe try posting there and reference this thread just in case people start wanting to find Rose 
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=741824.0

[california dreamin]

Wondering about this abbreviation NHA and circled date on the 1939 Register. Rose married Ying on July 1, 1944. Would this be a misprint? and does anyone know what "NHA" stand for?
Maybe "New ___ Added"? Maybe the date that the new marriage data was added to the register?

A list of codes can be found here:
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/1939-register-enumeration-districts

Date would be when the Register was altered.  The year should be accurate.

[heywood]

Thanks really helpful cd. NHA = Liverpool.  so it is definitely the right lady.