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Re: Richard Jones 1841 & 1851 census
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 22 September 18 09:36 BST (UK) »
I am not sure why you think it is the Dark st family.

I am looking for the family of Emmanuel Jones - is there an Emmanuel in the Dark st family?

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Richard Jones husband of Ann Edwards
b.1790 Feb 21 Condover, Shropshire, Eng.
m.1807 Jan 1 Eyton upon the Weald Moors, Shropshire, Eng (reg.)
d.1880?
O:Nailer
Census
1841
1851 Richard Jones nailor living at New Street, aged 71
1861
1871
1881 census died?

Ann Edwards wife of Richard Jones mother of Emmanuel Jones
b.1789 May 31 baptism, All saints, Wellington, Shropshire, Eng.
m.1807 Jan 1 Eyton upon the Weald Moors, Shropshire, Eng.(reg.)
d.
Children 1
1813 Jan 13 Emmanuel Jones, Wellington, Shropshire, Eng. (1812)
1822 Sarah Jones
1824 Emma Jones
1827 Richard Jones (nailor in 1851 census living at New St)
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Re: Richard Jones 1841 & 1851 census
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 22 September 18 14:31 BST (UK) »
Have to say that I agree with Maddy that the Dark Street family is likely to be  the correct one.

Given that Emmanuel married his first wife in 1834 it is not surprising that in the 1841 census he is recorded with his wife and children, living in Cottage Row, Wellington.

Emmanuel Jones 25 Tailor
Harriet Jones 25
Emmanuel Jones 2
Maria Poole 9
Maria Jones 0

I know modern Wellington well, having lived in the area for a long time. I will endeavour to establish exactly where Cottage  Row and Dark Street were and will get back to you . The names are no longer used. Cottage Row must have been in Central Wellington as the 1841 census entries are sandwiched between those of Church Street and Walker Street. Dark Street in the 1841 census follows on from New Street.

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Re: Richard Jones 1841 & 1851 census
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 22 September 18 21:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks William - if you are correct I need to find an Emmanuel in that family.

This is Emmanuel's details - I do have all the information about his two marriages and their children.
Harriet died in 1843.  I haven't managed to find Emmanuel's death.

Emmanuel Jones husband of Harriet Mansell & Hannah Duckett
b.1813 Jan 13 All Saints, Wellington, Shropshire, Eng. 
m.1835 Aug 23 Harriet Mansell, Eyton upon the Weald Moors, Shoprshire, Eng.
m.1844 Hannah Duckett, Wellington, Shropshire, Eng.
d.1881 (census no longer alive?)
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1836 Dec 18 New Street, Wellington, Shropshire, Eng.
1838 Aug 7 Duncow Lane, Wellington, Shropshire, Eng.
1839 Feb 27 Duncow Lane, Wellington, Shropshire, Eng.
1841 June 6 living in Cottage Row, Wellington, Shropshire, Eng. Emmanuel 25, Harriet 25, Emmanuel 2, Maria Jones 1 month and Maria Poole aged 9.
1844 Chapel Place, Wellington, Shropshire, Eng.
1851 101 New street, Wellington, Shropshire, Eng. Emmanual Jones 39, his wife Hannah 28 (John Duckett’s daughter), Harriet & Emmanual’s son Emmanuel 12, Hannah and Emmanuel’s children: Thomas 5, Sarah 3, Richard 1.  A visitor, John Duckett a Day labourer who was a widower and William Thomas a 34 year old Wheelwright (reg.) (photo 101 New St, St George’s, Telford)
1861 101 New Street, Wellington, Shropshire, Emmanuel & Hannah their children Thomas 15, Sarah Ann 13, Richard 11, Elizabeth 9, John 6, Henry 3, Hannah 1 (reg.)
1871 Emmanuel, Hannah, Richard 21 (puddler), John 17 (labourer), Henry 14 (labourer), Hannah 11 (scholar), George 8 (scholar), William 4 (scholar) living at 114 Christ Church Road, Wellington, Shropshire
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Re: Richard Jones 1841 & 1851 census
« Reply #12 on: Monday 24 September 18 03:22 BST (UK) »
I haven't managed to find Emmanuel's death.


As wife Hannah is widowed in the 1881 census, I imagine this is probably Emmanuel's death:
Emanuel JONES (age 78) Mar qtr 1880 Wellington 6a/611

I realise the age is different, however it could be a transcription error. I cannot see another Emmanuel JONES that would be this age in Wellington at the time. I guess the death cert would clear it up, especially if the informant was someone you could identify.  :-\

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Re: Richard Jones 1841 & 1851 census
« Reply #13 on: Monday 24 September 18 05:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that if it is March quarter this means Jan to March is that what you mean.

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Re: Richard Jones 1841 & 1851 census
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 30 September 18 06:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Bronwen, sorry for my tardy reply. Yes, the death was registered in the March quarter - so Jan, Feb or March. Here's a good explanation  :)
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Re: Richard Jones 1841 & 1851 census
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 30 September 18 08:07 BST (UK) »
Many thanks.
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Re: Richard Jones 1841 & 1851 census
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 30 September 18 10:50 BST (UK) »
Hi

Just seen this thread.

Re Emanuel's death: there is a burial on 14th July 1880 Donnington Wood. No age or other information given.


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Re: Richard Jones 1841 & 1851 census
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 30 September 18 11:04 BST (UK) »
The burial doesn't fit with Maddy's civil death registration find. The only other possibility for the burial in Donnington is of a 3 year old, registered Newport, Q3, 1880  (July-Sept).
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