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Re: Complete Beginner in Irish research needs pointing in the right direction
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 19 September 18 19:56 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for that very useful information.

At the moment I am waiting for my friend to get her information together but she told me she didn't know whether it was the Republic or Northern Ireland where her ancestors came from, so I thought I would get ahead of the game by looking at the websites and at that point became confused as to which ones covered which areas.  ???
You have all been very helpful in lessening that confusion and added some that I had not come across as well.
Thank you all very much  and I love a challenge :D
Jackie
Devon: Hortop, Phillips, Palmer, (Lamerton area)
Derbyshire: Hancock, Widdowson (Sheffield area)
Suffolk:Ratcliff ,Howlett, (Lowestoft area)
Kent:Ratcliff (Ramsgate area)
Norfolk: Stout, Fiske

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Re: Complete Beginner in Irish research needs pointing in the right direction
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 19 September 18 20:11 BST (UK) »

At the moment I am waiting for my friend to get her information together but she told me she didn't know whether it was the Republic or Northern Ireland where her ancestors came from, so I thought I would get ahead of the game by looking at the websites and at that point became confused as to which ones covered which areas.  ???
You have all been very helpful in lessening that confusion and added some that I had not come across as well.

It was just Ireland before 1921. The whole country was then part of the UK.
NB The State of Northern Ireland contains only 6 of 9 Ulster counties.
Irish Toolkit has a section for Norther Ireland. It also has a list of FH and local history societies.
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Re: Complete Beginner in Irish research needs pointing in the right direction
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 19 September 18 20:37 BST (UK) »
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp  search ALL Ireland up to 1921

I posted an example of just putting in basic information and searching!   




or

Census is where to start!  If you know County
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Re: Complete Beginner in Irish research needs pointing in the right direction
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 19 September 18 20:38 BST (UK) »
Yes thank you Maiden Stone. I am aware of the division in 1921 but as I don't know when her ancestors came over here  ( before/ after 1921) I thought I had better cover all bases ;)

Thank you Hallmark for that link too :)

I reckon I will probably be back here with more questions once I get going :)
Jackie

Devon: Hortop, Phillips, Palmer, (Lamerton area)
Derbyshire: Hancock, Widdowson (Sheffield area)
Suffolk:Ratcliff ,Howlett, (Lowestoft area)
Kent:Ratcliff (Ramsgate area)
Norfolk: Stout, Fiske


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Re: Complete Beginner in Irish research needs pointing in the right direction
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 19 September 18 20:43 BST (UK) »

Griffith's Valuation, all Ireland

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/


Tithe Applotment Books, all Ireland
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/index.jsp


Public Record Office of Northern Ireland
lots of stuff, my favorite is the Valuation Revision Books = followup to Griffith's after 1865

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/information-and-services/public-record-office-northern-ireland-proni/search-archives-online


Births, marriages, deaths, Northern Ireland after 1922
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/search-gronis-online-records


and find a favorite way/website to find Irish placenames. I have a lot of them bookmarked, but end up googling for them every time.

https://www.johngrenham.com/places/

Registration Districts by County
https://www.swilson.info/regdistbyco.php

Townland search
https://www.swilson.info/db/townlanddbs.php

the main problem with placenames is that there are so many variations of spelling. if you can't read the writing on a record, there is a board on rootschat to post the image on for help. If I can make out some of the name, I usually google for "County X townlands" then use my browser to search for the few letters in a row that I can read.

The two top hits are usually,

https://www.townlands.ie/ and the Wikipedia list of townlands.

for example:

https://www.townlands.ie/galway/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_townlands_of_County_Galway

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Re: Complete Beginner in Irish research needs pointing in the right direction
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 19 September 18 20:48 BST (UK) »
Do you know of someone who married in Ireland before 1921?

If so, https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp  and just put Name in and Year Range... then Search!

Look at picture I posted.... Name     Year Range    and   tick Marriages box


https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp  is your starting point/website

then secondly

Census  website
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Re: Complete Beginner in Irish research needs pointing in the right direction
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 19 September 18 20:55 BST (UK) »
EXAMPLE
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Re: Complete Beginner in Irish research needs pointing in the right direction
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 19 September 18 21:37 BST (UK) »
Thank you Oldohiohome for those links too and to Hallmark as well. I am browsing all these great websites as I go along ;D ;D Will keep me entertained for a while whilst I wait for the information
Thanks again everyone  :D
Jackie
Devon: Hortop, Phillips, Palmer, (Lamerton area)
Derbyshire: Hancock, Widdowson (Sheffield area)
Suffolk:Ratcliff ,Howlett, (Lowestoft area)
Kent:Ratcliff (Ramsgate area)
Norfolk: Stout, Fiske

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Re: Complete Beginner in Irish research needs pointing in the right direction
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 19 September 18 21:43 BST (UK) »
Not much you can do until you have names, approx dates etc....
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