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Re: died 1862 but probate calendar date not until 1904! Why?
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 20 September 18 14:58 BST (UK) »
Fordham baptism 25 Dec 1759, Abraham Seaman s/o Abraham and Elizabeth. Could he be the one who married Hannah in nearby Great H, but had been residing just before marriage in Althorne? Maybe working there and after marriage they went to live in Althorne or nearby Heybridge?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: died 1862 but probate calendar date not until 1904! Why?
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 20 September 18 15:13 BST (UK) »
Marriage at Fordham 29 Aug 1756, Abraham Simmonds (sic) otp bac and Elizabeth Butler of Stanway sp. Both made mark, but clerk has written "Abraham Seamans his mark" on the groom signature line. Witnesses, William Steel (marked) and Samuel Bowls (witnessed most marriages on the page)
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: died 1862 but probate calendar date not until 1904! Why?
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 20 September 18 15:33 BST (UK) »
Also at Fordham
burial of Elizabeth Simmons wife of Abraham 2 April 1786 and
 baptism of Letitia Simmons d/o Abraham and Elizabeth on 21 June 1767,
marriage of Lettishia Seamans and Luke Springet on 21 Aug 1791, both made mark.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: died 1862 but probate calendar date not until 1904! Why?
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 20 September 18 16:27 BST (UK) »
WOW!

Thank you to everyone for your efforts up to now. Sorry I haven't replied, I've literally just got back in from work.

It's going to take time to sift through all this, so please bear with me - I need a cup of tea first!

I agree about the spelling, and about first names changing sometimes, as I've had this is other parts of my tree. I had found various Seamen's / Simmons / Simmonds in and around the area, but never found a birth/baptism record for anyone.

I'll contact the other person looking into Abraham to see if anything from what you have found matches up with her findings.

Thanks again,

Lindsey
US - Paton

Scotland - Paton, MacKenzie, Morrison, Urquhart, Bryce, Lindsay, Izett, Ferrier, Crawfurd, Strath,
England - Williams, Jones, Whitnall, Abbott, Rayner, Rowden, Hawker, Northcote, Seaman

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Re: died 1862 but probate calendar date not until 1904! Why?
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 20 September 18 16:42 BST (UK) »
J G snr b abt 1808 in Maldon, too old to be Joshua b Heybridge's son, but maybe nephew.

There is a baptism for an Abraham Simmons s/o Abraham and Hannah in Heybridge on 23 April 1786 born 17 Feb 1786 - a pauper.

Also Hannah born 17 July, bapt 5 Oct 1788,
Mary born 15 Sep, bapt 16 Oct 1791,
Henrietta born 21 Aug, bapt 29 Sep 1793,
Joseph born 13 Apr bapt 5 Jun 1796
same parents and surname always Simmons not Seamen and no Jushua bapt Heybridge at right time

Hi LizzieL

Could you please tell me where you found these baptism records?

Thank you

Lindsey
US - Paton

Scotland - Paton, MacKenzie, Morrison, Urquhart, Bryce, Lindsay, Izett, Ferrier, Crawfurd, Strath,
England - Williams, Jones, Whitnall, Abbott, Rayner, Rowden, Hawker, Northcote, Seaman

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Re: died 1862 but probate calendar date not until 1904! Why?
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 20 September 18 17:31 BST (UK) »
They are on the Essex record office site, but it is a subscription site. Free reg has quite a lot of Essex records too. The only thing about ERO / SEAX site is that they aren't indexed, you need to browse through the records,  so I start with Freereg or a search of index on FindMyPast and if I find a likely one I can go straight to register. If you have a lot of Essex people and you have a fair idea where to find them, it may be worth taking out a one day or one week sub and blitzing them all in one go.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: died 1862 but probate calendar date not until 1904! Why?
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 20 September 18 18:06 BST (UK) »
They are on the Essex record office site, but it is a subscription site. Free reg has quite a lot of Essex records too. The only thing about ERO / SEAX site is that they aren't indexed, you need to browse through the records,  so I start with Freereg or a search of index on FindMyPast and if I find a likely one I can go straight to register. If you have a lot of Essex people and you have a fair idea where to find them, it may be worth taking out a one day or one week sub and blitzing them all in one go.

Thank you,

Can I access all the Essex records online or would I need to visit the office for some of them? I only ask because its a long time since I left Essex, and don't have much reason to go back - except to do this!
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Scotland - Paton, MacKenzie, Morrison, Urquhart, Bryce, Lindsay, Izett, Ferrier, Crawfurd, Strath,
England - Williams, Jones, Whitnall, Abbott, Rayner, Rowden, Hawker, Northcote, Seaman

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Re: died 1862 but probate calendar date not until 1904! Why?
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 20 September 18 18:56 BST (UK) »
A lot of records are on line
you should be able to check what's available here
https://secureweb1.essexcc.gov.uk/SeaxPAM/Default.aspx?SearchDocs=1&intSearchType=12
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: died 1862 but probate calendar date not until 1904! Why?
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 20 September 18 20:23 BST (UK) »
Woke up this am to your overnight work Lizzie. How satisfying!
currently concentrating on NUTCHER & MARSHALL families, Hampshire.
and family of Thomas ANDERSON a Tailor of Perth, Scotland