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Re: Thomas Edward Turner b 1872
« Reply #9 on: Friday 21 September 18 23:16 BST (UK) »
This this is her first husband's death (not that I've found a marriage)

John Turner
Age   35  (b abt 1866)
Q2    1901    Pontefract VOl 9c p75

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Re: Thomas Edward Turner b 1872
« Reply #10 on: Friday 21 September 18 23:24 BST (UK) »
Walter Doyle killed in action  24 dec 1916

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and family of Thomas ANDERSON a Tailor of Perth, Scotland

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Re: Thomas Edward Turner b 1872
« Reply #11 on: Friday 21 September 18 23:38 BST (UK) »
1911 he’s married, boarder in Guest household, St Helens. 
Says he had one child who has died

Possibly

DOYLE, JOSEPH  EDWARD     PRESCOTT     
GRO Reference: 1902  J Quarter in PRESCOT  Volume 08B  Page 837   

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Deaths Jun 1907
DOYLE    Joseph Edward    4    Prescot    8b   445
 
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Re: Thomas Edward Turner b 1872
« Reply #12 on: Friday 21 September 18 23:42 BST (UK) »
Walter Doyle’s effects to His widow Catherine Turner
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Re: Thomas Edward Turner b 1872
« Reply #13 on: Friday 21 September 18 23:48 BST (UK) »
Very tantalising  document on FindMyPast https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f007295263%2f00948&parentid=gbm%2fwo363-4%2f7295263%2f47%2f945

Particulars as to marriage and next of kin seem to have been rubbed out, but you can JUST see Kate Prescott
Then there is a torn document very faint that looks as though they have been trying to trace her.  There is mention of him lodging with Mr Guest. 

Oh, next page is typed note,  says when he joined gave his wife as Kate Doyle, address unknown.   They notified his mother and asked for wife’s address. No reply.
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Re: Thomas Edward Turner b 1872
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 22 September 18 00:43 BST (UK) »

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Re: Thomas Edward Turner b 1872
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 22 September 18 01:10 BST (UK) »

I know that he was born on the 20th May 1872 in Bradford, Yorkshire at 5 Rifle Court. He was the son of Llewelyn Turner and Mary Turner (nee Brodigan). Llewelyn was born in Ruthin.

To confuse matters even more, I also found a marriage on 12th March 1920, for a Thomas Edward Vernon Turner, aged 44, listed as SINGLE, a marine engineer, marriage to an Ethel Browne. The father is listed as Llewelyn Turner, a marine engineer, deceased (I do know that Llewelyn was not a marine engineer, he was an engine driver). The marriage took place in Gloucester.


Am I looking at 2 separate Thomas Edward Turner’s here? Any thoughts would be welcomed.

1939. 4 Charles Walk, Bristol. Is Thomas E Turner birth 20 May 1872. Retired and Ethel E Turner dob 2 Oct 1881
There are 5 redacted entries

But on FindMyPast one has been unlocked. Hubert Brown, plumber dob 17 July 1917
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Re: Thomas Edward Turner b 1872
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 22 September 18 08:58 BST (UK) »
Thank you all so much for this really valuable information.

McKha489, thank you, I thought that Kate L Doyle might actually be Catherine L Prescott as well. The information on the letter is very intriguing, at first glance it looks like she did not want to be traced. I will order some of the certificates listed to see if I can get any information from these.

Mabel, thank you for the information. The baptism records are really useful. I know that James (Jacobus) was born on the 24th September 1895. The others listed will be Nelly and Mary.

Roger, thank you for the newspaper article, that does look like more than a coincidence. I will try to research that angle.

Thanks everyone. It looks like Thomas Edward Turner lived quite a complicated life!

Best wishes

Stephen
Turner - Caernarvonshire, Denbigshire, Merionethshire, Shropshire & Staffordshire
Craig - Glasgow and Co. Antrim
Evans - Merionethshire & Caernarvonshire
Williams - Caernarvonshire & Merionethshire
Neeson - Co. Antrim
McCormick - Glasgow
Costello - Glasgow

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Re: Thomas Edward Turner b 1872
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 22 September 18 10:24 BST (UK) »
I found a marriage for a John Turner, Prescot 1882 Q4 8B 058, but no wife name is listed under the transcription. This might be a possibility for a marriage to Catherine Prescott.
Turner - Caernarvonshire, Denbigshire, Merionethshire, Shropshire & Staffordshire
Craig - Glasgow and Co. Antrim
Evans - Merionethshire & Caernarvonshire
Williams - Caernarvonshire & Merionethshire
Neeson - Co. Antrim
McCormick - Glasgow
Costello - Glasgow