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C. of E. Baptisms look-up please BOI.
« on: Sunday 23 September 18 07:49 BST (UK) »
A few days ago I found that NZ archives, Wellington have Church of England Baptism records
for Bay of Islands.  This was too late for Spades' visit to the archives following another request
of mine.  Today I note that Spades will again be visiting the archives so I am adding another
look-up request please.

I am looking for C of E Baptisms for any children of Johnson and Mary Brothers between February
1840 and March 1845, possible names Annie, Marion/Marian, John and Edward. Place - Bay of
Islands, Russell.  Johnson was stationed for part of this time in Okiato.

Have attached a reference I found on Archway

Thankyou,
Regards,
Jen.
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Re: C. of E. Baptisms look-up please BOI.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 September 18 08:44 BST (UK) »

I am hoping these are the direct links for the person who may do the look up for you.....


https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=21906667


https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=21906668

[There is also this one but appears to be outside the period of 1840-1845]......

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=21906666


Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: C. of E. Baptisms look-up please BOI.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 September 18 09:04 BST (UK) »
Thankyou Minniehaha,  What do you think the 'Bay of Islands Missions' refers to?  There is no
mention of Church of England registers (Christ Church).  Could these be the Catholic records
perhaps?  Johnson Brothers was Church of England and Mary Brothers was Catholic so the Baptisms
could be in either denomination.   I asked for the  C of E records because I found the archives
had these records and it seems a good place to start.

Jen.
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Kirby  Lechlade, Gloucestershire
Hampshire  Stepney, Middlesex & Hampshire
Goddard,  Isle of Wight
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Re: C. of E. Baptisms look-up please BOI.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 September 18 06:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Jen,

I can look for these files for you.

Unfortunately I'm unable to request either of the first two files linked to by Minniehaha (thank you!) so I'll wait a week or two and try again.

Spades
ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL


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Re: C. of E. Baptisms look-up please BOI.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 24 September 18 07:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much Spades ;D  I think the records I'm looking for are the Christ Church, Church of
England Baptism records on microfilm  with the reference given in my original post.  The references
given by Minniehaha are not I believe the C of E records but may be the Catholic records.

Are you able to access the Church of England records on microfilm?

Regards,
Jen.
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Jennings NSW, Australia
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Kirby  Lechlade, Gloucestershire
Hampshire  Stepney, Middlesex & Hampshire
Goddard,  Isle of Wight
Cushen, Isle of Wight
Keys,  Tyrone Ireland & NSW Australia

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Re: C. of E. Baptisms look-up please BOI.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 24 September 18 07:33 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much Spades ;D  I think the records I'm looking for are the Christ Church, Church of
England Baptism records on microfilm  with the reference given in my original post.  The references
given by Minniehaha are not I believe the C of E records but may be the Catholic records.

Are you able to access the Church of England records on microfilm?

Regards,
Jen.


Hi Jen,

To be certain, can you put up the direct links for Spades that you have found, please.......

Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: C. of E. Baptisms look-up please BOI.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 24 September 18 07:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Minniehaha,   Unfortunately I don't know how to do that.  The reference I found was on
                        a website for the Church of England in N.Z.  I mistakenly said it was from
                        Archway but it does state that these records are held by NZ archives, Wellington.
                        I am having great difficulty working my way through NZ records, the Maori
                        references are causing confusion as I don't know what they are or where they are -
                        hence my request for help from those who do know. :D  I will look again to see
                        what I can find on Archway.

Regards,
Jen.
   
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Jennings NSW, Australia
Page  Coventry UK, Queensland Aust.
Sellars (Sellard) Gloucestershire
Kirby  Lechlade, Gloucestershire
Hampshire  Stepney, Middlesex & Hampshire
Goddard,  Isle of Wight
Cushen, Isle of Wight
Keys,  Tyrone Ireland & NSW Australia

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Re: C. of E. Baptisms look-up please BOI.
« Reply #7 on: Monday 24 September 18 09:02 BST (UK) »
Quote from: aus*jen
The references given by Minniehaha are not I believe the C of E records

Hello...

The ADFD mentioned in your original post is the code used by ArchivesNZ/Archway for "The Anglican Church in Aotearoa, New Zealand, and Polynesia", also known as The Church of England in New Zealand.

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The following link will show you the entries for the microfilms mentioned in your original post (Microfilms 2792, 2793 and 2794)

https://tinyurl.com/y9f36kmw

Please note that the files linked to by Minnie are listed.

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You mentioned Russell. The original name for this settlement was Kororareka so any baptism registers for this area may need to be searched, as well as the baptism registers for Waimate.

The registers for Kororareka are listed on the above tinyurl link.

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What do you think the 'Bay of Islands Missions' refers to?

On the following image Deed no.83 refers to the Church of England Mission at Waimate.

This Waimate is not the one found down in the South Island but is the one found in the Bay of Islands sometimes referred to as Waimate North (not that that's a place name with which I'm familiar. Apparently there's a Waimate over in Taranaki too...)

https://tinyurl.com/yah2t8tc

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Where did you find the term "Christ Church, Church of England Baptism records"

Regards
Beg

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Re: C. of E. Baptisms look-up please BOI.
« Reply #8 on: Monday 24 September 18 23:16 BST (UK) »
Hello Beg,   I really appreciate your help, you have clarified this for me - a lot! ;D

                  Have checked the Archway link and have isolated 3 records for Kororareka which
                  I believe are the relevant ones.  I will add them to a post to Spades.

                  The Brothers family arrived in Russell from Aust. in February 1840 and departed
                  NZ in April 1845.   Documents sent to me by Spades confirmed that Johnson Brothers
                  was employed by the NZ Government as a 'turnkey' at the Gaol in Russell and at
                  some time was at the gaol in Okiato.  For this reason I believe the Kororareka
                  records are the correct ones.

                  Re  "Christ Church, Church of England baptisms"  I have read that the first
                  service for this church was in 1836 so assumed that the registers of this church
                  would record baptisms for Russell during the 1840-1845 timeframe.

Regards,
Jen.

                 
Boland   NSW, Australia
Gibbs   S.Aust. & Queensland
Jennings NSW, Australia
Page  Coventry UK, Queensland Aust.
Sellars (Sellard) Gloucestershire
Kirby  Lechlade, Gloucestershire
Hampshire  Stepney, Middlesex & Hampshire
Goddard,  Isle of Wight
Cushen, Isle of Wight
Keys,  Tyrone Ireland & NSW Australia