Author Topic: Salome Mary Doyle nee (Mary Plunkett) - born 1900 or 1901  (Read 6343 times)

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Re: Salome Mary Doyle nee (Mary Plunkett) - born 1900 or 1902
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 23 September 18 12:05 BST (UK) »
Violet may have been an acquired name like Salome though.

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Thanks for the Workhouse records. I tried but can’t see anything yet- not sure though how it works. :-\

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Re: Salome Mary Doyle nee (Mary Plunkett) - born 1900 or 1902
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 23 September 18 12:06 BST (UK) »
I think the church record of the 1922 marriage is needed, which hopefully would have her mother's name and or an address for her father, and Thomas Patrick's.
Don't know how you would get it!

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Re: Salome Mary Doyle nee (Mary Plunkett) - born 1900 or 1902
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 23 September 18 12:20 BST (UK) »
I think the marriage details are already known. Not sure if the church records would show mother’s name - I think that varies according to the priest but may be there and worth contacting the parish perhaps.


Based on the details recorded in her marriage certificate, what I know with a reasonable degree of certainty is that my grandmother was 21 years old when she got married in Birkenhead, Cheshire to my grandfather, Thomas Patrick Doyle,  on the 23rd September 1922.  My grandfather’s age is also given as 21, with occupation being “Letter Carrier G.P.O” on the marriage certificate. The certificate also shows that my paternal great grandfather was shown as, Thomas Doyle, occupation “Cycle Agent”, with my maternal great grandfather being named as, John Plunkett (deceased), occupation “Farmer”.

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Re: Salome Mary Doyle nee (Mary Plunkett) - born 1900 or 1902
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 23 September 18 12:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Everyone,
 
 
Based on the details recorded in her marriage certificate, what I know with a reasonable degree of certainty is that my grandmother was 21 years old when she got married in Birkenhead, Cheshire to my grandfather, Thomas Patrick Doyle,  on the 23rd September 1922.  My grandfather’s age is also given as 21, with occupation being “Letter Carrier G.P.O” on the marriage certificate. The certificate also shows that my paternal great grandfather was shown as, Thomas Doyle, occupation “Cycle Agent”, with my maternal great grandfather being named as, John Plunkett (deceased), occupation “Farmer”.
 


JOHN PLUNKETTS  FARMERS 1911 CENSUS http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mrn/

JOHN PLUNKETTS  FARMERS 1901 CENSUS http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mro/
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Re: Salome Mary Doyle nee (Mary Plunkett) - born 1900 or 1902
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 23 September 18 12:43 BST (UK) »
So they were in Dublin!!


http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Pembroke_West/Hope_Street/45692/

1901 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/South_Dock/Queen_Square/1349788/

John is a Steamer Master in 1901 and a Labourer in 1911


Obviously not correct family!!


What the poster needs to do is search for John who was a farmer, of relevant ages on Census (Links posted)  with a daughter Mary of approximate age rather than posting a family that isn't them!
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Re: Salome Mary Doyle nee (Mary Plunkett) - born 1900 or 1902
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 23 September 18 13:02 BST (UK) »
The published tree which seems to be based around the daughter Veronica Mary b 1927 shows the mother Mary Plunkett in this family

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mrp/

She is 16 yrs in 1911 - so a different age in comparison to death.

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Re: Salome Mary Doyle nee (Mary Plunkett) - born 1900 or 1902
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 23 September 18 13:13 BST (UK) »
The published tree which seems to be based around the daughter Veronica Mary b 1927 shows the mother Mary Plunkett in this family

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mrp/

She is 16 yrs in 1911 - so a different age in comparison to death.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mrp/

I don’t think it is this Mary either as she looks to marry Peter Dowd in 1919
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1919/09696/5516879.pdf
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Re: Salome Mary Doyle nee (Mary Plunkett) - born 1900 or 1902
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 23 September 18 13:19 BST (UK) »
Possible leads here (although extracts seem a bit mixed up full articles may explain more)-

Drogheda Argus and Leinster Journal, 6 July 1929: DROGHEDA DISTRICT COURT ... At that time the Board of Health were keeping his family in Drogheda. He found out ... Inspector of the night he came to Drogheda. He had National Society for the Prevention heard that there was something of Cruelty to Children, prosecuted against him and he was coming up Thomas P. Doyle, Mull, Drogheda Laurence Street to Inspector M_ ...

Drogheda Argus and Leinster Journal, 15 Nov.1930: ... SENTENCED. At Slane District Court a man named Thomas P. Doyle, Hell, Drogheda, was charged (with having deserted his wife and four young children. He was arrested in London. In the course of her evidence the defendant...

Weekly Irish Times (Dublin), 22 Nov.1930:
At _ Sessions man named Thomas P. Doyle, Mell, Drogheda, was charged with having deserted his wife and four young children. In reply District Justice Goff, the prisoner ...
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!