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Re: Alice Kath William
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 13 October 18 07:21 BST (UK) »
Have requested this post to be moved to the Australia board and hopefully be able to help


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Re: Alice Kath William
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 13 October 18 12:07 BST (UK) »
Death for a Mary Ann Elizabeth Errington
24 January 1902 Adelaide age 82
Has her father down as Joseph Errington quite possibly mistake by the person giving information

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The index has relative named as Joseph [DH] which is 'deceased husband', not father.

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Re: Alice Kath William
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 13 October 18 12:20 BST (UK) »
Also just found this.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/133455960

Unsure about age thing though

Your Martha died in 1928.

1928
509/17
BAILEY, Martha Collins
Relative: James BAILEY [DH]
Adelaide

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/129212653

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Re: Alice Kath William
« Reply #21 on: Monday 15 October 18 06:12 BST (UK) »
Thanks Debra,

I guess I'm still struggling to work out where Thomas went to after the birth of his daughter and as someone suggested earlier maybe he and Martha weren't married.

Also the Bailey connection sounds like a good line of enquiry but without knowing for sure do I want to spend money on a marriage certificate only to find out it isn't her. Then again I guess that's part of family history taking a swing at things and seeing what happens.
Borlands from Scotland, Hiltons from England & Platts from England at this stage. Have others to look for as well at some stage :)


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Re: Alice Kath William
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 16 October 18 12:35 BST (UK) »
Information re the Errington family arriving per Lady Ann, 1857 plus the birth of Caroline Ellen Lady Ann ERRINGTON ,27 August 1857, on the voyage which is also recorded in the UK Register of births at sea.
Some of this has already been mentioned but thought it might be worth putting it altogether, and with a bit more detail.) (Once again, working backwards)

1851 census, at Harders? Rd, Peckham 
Joseph Errington   31, stoker at the? Works, b Barnett
Mary Errington   31, b Peckham as are all of the children
Martha Errington   7
William Errington   3
Anne Errington   4 Mo
Mary Wilson   70, mother-in-law (pauper), b Peckham
(Harders Rd is still shown on Googlemap but it's 20th century housing - perhaps bombed?)

Marriage at St Mary, Lambeth, 4 December, 1843
(Spelling of Willson is used on the image and is also the name signed by the bride)
Joseph ERRINGTON, bachelor, labourer, Father: Thomas ERRINGTON (dec'd), occupation: smith
Mary Ann Elizabeth WILLSON, spinster, Father: Joseph WILLSON (dec'd), plasterer
Both give residence as Park St, Lambeth.
Both sign.
Witnesses: J's L GAWLER, Edw'd POWELL

William Joseph ERRINGTON,
b 12 October, 1847
; baptised 14 November at St Giles, Camberwell
Parents: Joseph (labourer) and Mary Ann Elizabeth ERRINGTON, of Harders Rd, Peckham

Joseph ERRINGTON,
b 13 Sep 1819
, baptised 3 June 1821 at St Giles, South Mimms, Barnet
Parents: Thomas (blacksmith) and Mary ERRINGTON, of Mims side?,
A sibling, Dorothy b May 6, 1821 also baptised the same day

Sorry, don't have time for a more extensive search  - there are some of the children shown on the FreeBMD index.

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DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: Alice Kath William
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 07:17 BST (UK) »
Some baptisms - fairly consistent in having the baptisms when the babies were about a month old, except for Joseph who must have been baptised shortly before they sailed.

Baptism: 28 April 1844 at church of St Mary Magdalene, Peckham
Martha Collins ERRINGTON d/o
Joseph (gas stoker) and Mary ERRINGTON, living at Orchard Peckham

Baptism: 15 February 1846 at St Giles, Camberwell (born 16 January, 1846)
Thomas William ERRINGTON s/o
Joseph (labourer) and Mary ERRINGTON, living at Harders Rd, Peckham

1847 William Joseph baptism shown in previous post

Baptism: 29 December, 1850 at St Giles, Camberwell (born 1 Dec, 1850)
Annie ERRINGTON d/o
Joseph (labourer) and Mary ERRINGTON, living at Harders Rd, Peckham

Baptism: 2 January 1853 at St Giles, Camberwell, (born 4 December 1852)
Emma ERRINGTON d/o
Joseph (labourer) and Mary ERRINGTON, living at Harders Rd, Peckham

Baptism: 28 June 1857 at at church of St Mary Magdalene, Peckham
Joseph ERRINGTON s/o
Joseph (labourer) and Mary Ann ERRINGTON, living at Peckham
Looks as though Joseph was aged about 2 as his birth is registered March Qr, 1855

Free BMD index has a couple of births and corresponding death for ERRINGTON infants registered Camberwell in the same time frame, but as it's only an index I can't tie them to Joseph and Mary. A couple of on-line trees have incorrect information.

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Re: Alice Kath William
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 17 October 18 08:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much for this information  :)
Borlands from Scotland, Hiltons from England & Platts from England at this stage. Have others to look for as well at some stage :)