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Re: Emma Deighton, born about 1843, later "Butler"
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 25 September 18 16:16 BST (UK) »
Here they are in 1841 /1083/10/13

Same address as later censuses.
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Re: Emma Deighton, born about 1843, later "Butler"
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 25 September 18 16:23 BST (UK) »
First baptism I can see is of Matilda in 1823 Shoreditch - parents William James Deighton (surgeon) and Mary, of Church St.

Was there more than one wife named Mary?

Where was Ellen/Helen in 1841 ???
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Emma Deighton, born about 1843, later "Butler"
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 25 September 18 16:28 BST (UK) »

Where was Ellen/Helen in 1841 ???

Found as Ellen Deighton, 4, with Murrell grandparents (likely) - William (a j. sawyer) and Ann, both 60, in Kennington.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Emma Deighton, born about 1843, later "Butler"
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 26 September 18 00:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks, avm and heywood, for your sleuthing.

From what source are you getting mmn's?
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Re: Emma Deighton, born about 1843, later "Butler"
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 26 September 18 00:33 BST (UK) »
Mmns are from GRO Online.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Emma Deighton, born about 1843, later "Butler"
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 26 September 18 01:41 BST (UK) »
Really? I thought they were only included later!

Thanks
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Re: Emma Deighton, born about 1843, later "Butler"
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 26 September 18 01:59 BST (UK) »
They're now indexed on GRO Online from 1837 - as are ages at death.  Both hugely helpful developments  :)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Emma Deighton, born about 1843, later "Butler"
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 26 September 18 02:13 BST (UK) »
Oh yes!  Id taken a couple of years off from active research, so need to catch up on these developments :)
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Re: Emma Deighton, born about 1843, later "Butler"
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 26 September 18 06:07 BST (UK) »
So now I'm intrigued by Ellen Butler, 2-years old in 1871, living with her mother, Emma (Deighton).

Supposedly born in Liverpool, but (unless I'm struggling to use the source correctly) there is no female Butler born to a mother with the maiden name Deighton anywhere in England or Wales from 1865-1871.

So what is going on?  Was she born to a different father and therefore registered by a different surname, only for Emma to change the name to Butler when she took-up with Henry Thomas?

The likely marriage certificate unearthed by lizdb suggests that Ellen thought she had been born a Butler

Thanks for any advice
Tim
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