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Ann Gillam Bancks query on death info.
« on: Tuesday 25 September 18 07:45 BST (UK) »
Hi

Can anyone tell me what the 'notes'  pertain to on this register.  I get this information from Genes Reunited.  Not all of the registers I look at have notes but I am curious whether this gives the first name of her husband?

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Re: Ann Gillam Bancks query on death info.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 25 September 18 08:31 BST (UK) »
It may not be relevant but Edward Bankes married Ann Steele in Cowfold 26th April 1607.  The w probably means wife of Edward.
There is a further marriage for an Edward to Mary Beard in 1613.
What is the Gillam bit of her name?

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Re: Ann Gillam Bancks query on death info.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 25 September 18 08:42 BST (UK) »
Image of the parish register here. Says wife of Edward
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DRTV-T1?i=31&cat=144074

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Re: Ann Gillam Bancks query on death info.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 25 September 18 10:22 BST (UK) »
Okay that makes sense.  I am in fact looking for an Ann Gillam who married Nicholas Bancks.  And I thought that was probably what the notes meant so I can rule that one out.  However any idea as to what (Agnis) is about, what it means?

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Re: Ann Gillam Bancks query on death info.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 25 September 18 19:52 BST (UK) »
I am in fact looking for an Ann Gillam who married Nicholas Bancks.
They married at Ardingly in 1574
FamilySearch has indexed an Elenor being baptized at Ardingly 1575, father Nicholas Bankes
And a Mary at Wivelsfield in 1578

There are no burials indexed at Ardingly?
But a Nicholas Banks was buried in Lindfield in 1614.
There is a will for this chap, proved in the Deanery of South Malling, 28 May 1614. He was a tailor.
We can see it online (is in very good condition!)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D1M3-N3W?i=772&cat=173636

Names wife Joane, one of his daughters is Elenor, who is married.
Was Joan a second wife?
Potential marriage on the SMI, 19 Sep 1603, Lindfield, Nich Bancks + Jone Pollard.

Sussex Burials has an Agnes Bancks buried at Lindfield in 1601.
Now does that say wife of Nicholas? Perhaps someone will let us know. And could it be the lady who married as Ann?

By the way, SMI says Ann Gillam was a widow.
Image of PR here, left hand page, second entry
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DBT7-4K4?i=36&cat=229142

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Re: Ann Gillam Bancks query on death info.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 25 September 18 20:23 BST (UK) »
That burial in 1601 does say wife of Nicholas.
John Gillam to Agnes Beldame at Ardingly in Feb 1571/2 but she was a widow then too.  This could be complicated!

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Re: Ann Gillam Bancks query on death info.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 25 September 18 20:28 BST (UK) »
Thank you, Sillgen.
Looks promising!

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Re: Ann Gillam Bancks query on death info.
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 25 September 18 20:32 BST (UK) »
I cannot see an earlier Beldame marriage to an Agnes but it is getting very early for parish records online.  (Edited earlier post)

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Re: Ann Gillam Bancks query on death info.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 25 September 18 22:59 BST (UK) »
Thanks to all of you - this is indeed very complicated it appears.  I was thrilled to see those two documents on line, the will which is indeed in such great condition and the Gillam one.  I assume I can buy them from the two different Sussex places that have them?

But I could be up the wrong tree - and I note none of you mention Mary as one of the daughters of Nicholas Banckes and Ann Gillam - and the gap between her birth and her siblings is rather large. 

I am looking for this family - and whilst it says Mary Bancks background (she is the person I am following)
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/2MP2-M5J

However how likely that she was born in 1594 and marries in 1606 and has her first child in 1608?

1548 BANCKS
Nicholas Bancks husband of Ann Gillam
b.1548c
m.1574 Jan 19, Ann Gillam (a widow), Ardingly, West Sussex, Eng.
d.1614 Lindfield, West Sussex, Eng.
O Tailor

1555 GILLAM
Ann Gillam wife of Nicholas Bancks mother of Mary Bancks
b.
m.1574 Jan 19, Nicholas Bancks, Ardingly, West Sussex, Eng.
m.Joane?  Will names Joane as wife and daughter Elenor who is married, potential marriage SMI 19 sept 1603 Lindfield, Nich Bancks + Jone Pollard?
d.
Children 2
1575 Oct 23 bc Elenor Banks, Ardingly, West Sussex, Eng.
1578 Mary Bankes Wivelsfield
1594 cJune 8 Mary Bancks, Ardingly, West Sussex, Eng.

Mary Bancks wife of John Potter mother of Thomas Potter
b.1594 cJune 8 Ardingly, Sussex Eng.
m.1606 Aug 10, John Potter, Worth, Sussex, Eng.
d.
Children 6
1608 c.Nov 6 Thomas Potter, Worth, Sussex, Eng.
1611 Aug c.Aug 25 Francis Potter m.1631 Oct 23 William Russell c.
1613 Feb 6 c.Feb 6 -1643 John Potter c.1644 William Potter
1619 Nov 21 c.Nov 21 – 1626 Mar 18 George Potter
1623 Sept 28 Charles Potter
1645 Dec 28 c.Dec 28 Bridget Potter    SEEMS LIKE A RATHER LARGE GAP here too.


Regards Bronwen
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