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Re: Ann Gillam Bancks query on death info.
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 27 September 18 13:54 BST (UK) »
For what its worth it would be uncommon (not impossible) to have two daughters named Mary.  The inference is that the first Mary (bc 1576 Ardingly) which is the one you are following died prior to the birth of the second one in 1578 Wivelsfield.

What is the likelihood that i) they are actually one and the same Mary or ii) the one b. 1576 did die - have you looked for a burial?

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Re: Ann Gillam Bancks query on death info.
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 27 September 18 20:25 BST (UK) »
Hi

This just research I have done myself but not of course set in concrete.  I had read somewhere that very occasionally people had the same first name in one family.  I have looked for the death also and if she died then I am looking at the wrong one, and perhaps they are one and the same - see below the one I want.  Some of it came from 'family search' and I will have used Genes Reunited. I have just joined the Sussex society so may be able to sort this out through that site. 

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1555 GILLAM
Ann Gillam wife of Nicholas Bancks mother of Mary Bancks
b.
m.1574 Jan 19, Nicholas Bancks, Ardingly, West Sussex, Eng.
m.Joane?  Will names Joane as wife and daughter Elenor who is married   potential marriage SMI 19 sept 1603 Lindfield, Nich Bancks + Jone Pollard?
d.
Children 2/3?
1575 Oct 23 bc Elenor Banks, Ardingly, West Sussex, Eng.
1576 cJune 18 Mary Bancks, Ardingly, West Sussex, Eng.
1578 Mary Bankes Wivelsfield
In Nicholas will suggests Mary the executor is unbmarried

Mary Bancks wife of John Potter mother of Thomas Potter
b.1576 cJune 18 Ardingly, Sussex Eng.  (Wilvesford?)
m.1606 Aug 10, John Potter, Worth, Sussex, Eng.
d.1594
Children 6
1608 c.Nov 6 Thomas Potter, Worth, Sussex, Eng.
1611 Aug c.Aug 25 Francis Potter m.1631 Oct 23 William Russell c.
1613 Feb 6 c.Feb 6 -1643 John Potter c.1644 William Potter
1619 Nov 21 c.Nov 21 – 1626 Mar 18 George Potter
1623 Sept 28 Charles Potter
1645 Dec 28 c.Dec 28 Bridget Potter    SEEMS LIKE A RATHER LARGE GAP

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« Reply #20 on: Thursday 27 September 18 20:39 BST (UK) »
1645 Dec 28 c.Dec 28 Bridget Potter    SEEMS LIKE A RATHER LARGE GAP
27 Dec 1645
Bridgett the daughter of Thomas Potter & of Mary

Image here (first entry)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XKP3-6QS?i=95&cat=275785

Is Mary an error in the register? Should it say Sara?
There was a daughter Bridget mentioned in that will of Thomas Potter.
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« Reply #21 on: Thursday 27 September 18 20:47 BST (UK) »
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1623 Sept 28 Charles Potter
1645 Dec 28 c.Dec 28 Bridget Potter    SEEMS LIKE A RATHER LARGE GAP

It's an impossible gap.  No woman born in 1576, first child born in 1608, would still be having children in 1645 when she would have been 70!

Even the last one in 1623 stretching it a bit, but not impossible.

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« Reply #22 on: Thursday 27 September 18 20:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks John

I am not quite with you, why would it say Sara? 

Thanks for the register for Bridget - does seem like a rather large gap between Bridget and her siblings?.   I haven't sited the two documents properly yet to be able to read them thoroughly but now that I am in the Sussex heritage group I should be able to do that.

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Re: Ann Gillam Bancks query on death info.
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 27 September 18 20:53 BST (UK) »
Point taken Nell, need to re-look at who is whose children.

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Re: Ann Gillam Bancks query on death info.
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 27 September 18 20:56 BST (UK) »
All the other baptisms were to Thomas and Sara
Just that one saying Mary
Bridget is daughter of Thomas, according to the will.
So you have attributed Bridget to John and Mary, but the father was Thomas (and mother Sara perhaps?)

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« Reply #25 on: Thursday 27 September 18 21:29 BST (UK) »
This is Elenor daughter of Nicholas and Ann (Gillam) born when Ann was 17.
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/find/name?search=1&birth=West%20Sussex,%20England,%20United%20Kingdom|1578|0&self=Elenor|Bancks|0|0&_=1538079719791

it has here that Mary was born when Ann was 36, of course I know these connections are not necessarily correct.

So the will is Thomas' will not Nicholas?

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Re: Ann Gillam Bancks query on death info.
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 27 September 18 21:32 BST (UK) »
This Mary Bancks and her parents and her husband.


https://www.familysearch.org/tree/find/name?search=1&birth=West%20Sussex,%20England,%20United%20Kingdom|1590|0&self=Mary|Bancks|0|0&_=1538080257228
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