Looking for information on George BEERS of Sawley

[emeltom]

The George Beers born Chesterfield 1874 has mmn Hoaksley

George Beers Dec 1872 Shardlow 7b 381 mmn Kirk

Emeltom

[CrichCarr]

The George Beers born Chesterfield 1874 has mmn Hoaksley

I am sorry to be a continuing pain on this but can you advise which record gives George Henry Beers mothers maiden name as HOAKSLEY?

Alan

[emeltom]

Gro Birth Ref

Beers George Henry March 1874 Chesterfield 7b 587 mmn Hoaksley

This birth was mentioned by Annette& in Post #8

Emeltom

[Dundee]

I ask the baptismal question because being after 1911, the Index should have her mother's maiden name on it.

It is the birth registration not the baptism which shows mother's maiden name.  The GRO indexes show maiden name from 1837.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

Debra 

[suzard]

Details from Parish register
Marriage after Banns
St Marys Ilkeston Derbyshire
6 Aug 1894
George beers 21 Bachelor Miner address Ilkeston father George Beers occ labourer
Sarah Aldred 21 spinster address Ilkeston father Aaron Aldred occ Lace Maker
witnesses Frederick Bannister & Mary Ann Jowett
all signed

1901
32 North St Ilkeston Derbys
George H Beers Head M 27 Coal Hewer below ground
Sarah wife 28
May daughter 4
Matilda daughter 3
George W son 1mth
all b Ilkeston Derbys
RG13 3150 106 7

in later census George henry gives his p.o.b. as Nr Shirland Derbys
this would fit with his birth being registered in Chesterfield district

At least 5 of George Henry and Sarah's children died

I can't find George henry in census earlier than 1901

Suz

[suzard]

think I have found him

1891
10 Belfield St Ilkeston Derbys
George Beers Head M 44 coal miner Sawley
Matilda wife 44 Sawley
GEORGE son 17 coal miner Wingfield Derbys
Thomas son 13 coal miner Wingfield
Frederick son 10 Hucknall Huthwaite
Ellen daughter 8 Hucknall Huthwaite
RG12 2665 82 57

However I think Matilda was George Henry's step mother

Marriage reg Sept qtr 1890 Nottingham
George bears Matilda Harrison
7b 397

but it seems this was not Matilda's first marriage
Marrige 13 Sept 1890 St Peters Nottingham
George Bears father William Bears
married
Matilda Harrison fater Thomas Hickton
(Matilda Hickton married 7 Oct 1869 St Peters Derby to Joseph Harrison)


More tomorrow

Suz

[Annette7]

This could be the first marriage of George Beers bc.1847 - George Beers, 20, son of William Beers, married Sarah Ann Bradley 21, 18/2/1867 Wessington, Derbyshire (Chesterfield regn. district). 

A son William Beers, mmn Bradley, birth reg'd Mar.1867 Chesterfield, death reg'd Jun.1867.
Looks like wife Sarah died as a result of childbirth - Sarah A. Beers bc.1848, d.Mar.1867 Chesterfield.

Have found a possible 1871 census entry at Unstone, Derbyshire:

George Beers  25     Collier     born Sorley, Derbyshire (think this should be Sawley)
Ellen Beers     32                   born South Wingfield, Derbyshire.

However, cannot find a marriage a George Beers/Beer and an Ellen??

I'm wondering whether the mmn of Hoaksley on George Henry Beers birth in Mar.1874 should in fact be Hawksley?

GRO births index shows:

George Henry Beers Mar.1874 Chesterfield, mmn Hoaksley
Bertha Beers Mar.1876 Chesterfield, mmn Hawksley, died Sept.1877 Belper
Thomas Beers Jun.1877 Belper, mmn Hawksley
James Beers Jun.1878 Chesterfield, mmn Hawksley, died Sept.1878 Chesterfield

The 1891 census of George with possible new wife Matilda shows children as:

George 17
Thomas 15
Frederick 10
Ellen 8

The only Frederick Beers I can find in birth index is:

Frederick in Sept.qtr.1881 Mansfield, mmn Oxley (is this a corruption of Hoaksley/Hawksley?)

Only Ellen Beers I can find was also born Mansfield, in Mar.qtr.1883, mmn Poley??? (cannot see any marriage between a Beers and a Poley so is this a mistake on GRO's part?)

With the Ellen Beers birth in Mar.qtr.1883 Mansfield, we also have a death entry for an Ellen Beers b.1840, also in Mar.1883 Mansfield - again, did mother die in childbirth?

It's looking like the wife 'Ellen' on 1871 census was the mother of these later children although can only find a baptism for James b.1878 - bp.20/8/1878 Pilsley, son of George and Ellen, bur.25/8/1878 Pilsley.

The son William of the first marriage was bp.19/4/1867 Wessington, bur.27/4/1867 Wessington.  His mother Sarah Ann bur.30/3/1867 Wessington.

So George's second wife (although can't find a marriage) was an Ellen Hawksley (or some variant thereof).

Annette

[CrichCarr]

What can I say? The BEERS were a family, some of whom certainly moved around quite a bit. A number of them, including George Henry, were born locally. Indeed, George Henry BEERS appears to have been born in South Wingfield, which is only about three miles from where I live (at Crich). Wessington is also mentioned with a BEERS connection. Again, that is just up the road from South Wingfield and was once in Crich Parish.

HAWKSLEY is a known name in South Wingfield, so if that somehow has been corrupted along the way might explain some of the confusion. Also, Second and possibly third marriages certainly complicate the issue and I am coming round to the conclusion that getting a PDF version of George Henry's birth certificate might be the only way of resolving his birth parents (providing they have spelt the names correctly).

The village of Unstone which you found Annette is in North-East Derbyshire and is close to Chesterfield and the then coal mining area around Dronfield. Finding George & Ellen BEERS there, would I suppose, be no great surprise. It's a pity that a marriage record is not more prominent.

One thing for sure, there are far more people named BEERS than I ever expected.

As I have said before, I am so grateful for all the help I am receiving. You folk are just wonderful!!

Alan 

[sparrett]

Yes, as you say, there were HAWKSLEYs living in South Wingfield and in 1841 there were at least three families. The ones I glanced at were headed by men George, James and Thomas HAWKSLEY who were all stocking makers ( as were many in the village) Each had a number of children. Perhaps ELLEN HAWKSBY was one, but I do not see her under that given name.

As shown above, Matilda HICKTON married 7 Oct 1869 St Peters Derby to Joseph HARRISON

Her birth perhaps

Births Dec 1847   
HICKTON Matilda
At  Shardlow
19/505

In 1871 Joseph and Matilda HARRISON lived in Jail Street Sawley. He was a smith The couple can be seen on the 1881 census but I do not see births to them.

As given previously, Matilda married George BEERS in 1890. Perhaps Joseph had died.

Sue