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Stanley Bevan Born c 1884 Pontypridd
« on: Friday 28 September 18 20:04 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

We are trying to find out who Stanley's parents are and wondered if anyone could help us please?

We know there is another Stanley Bevan, possibly Stanley John Bevan in the area at the same time who's father is James but if you follow the family history through the census records, he ends up not being the Stanley we are looking for.

Our Stanley married Lilly Price in 1909 and had Elizabeth Bevan in 1909, James Caneva Bevan 1913-1920 and Morgan William 1914-1982 (Morgan is the direct ancestor).

Given the first son's name it is possible his father was called James but there is just the confusion with Stanley and Stanley John.

I can only find 2 Stanleys on GRO:
BEVAN, STANLEY       -     Order
GRO Reference: 1883  J Quarter in PONTYPRIDD  Volume 11A  Page 445   Order
BEVAN, STANLEY       ROSSER     Order
GRO Reference: 1885  M Quarter in PONTYPOOL  Volume 11A  Page 133   Order
BEVAN, STANLEY  JAMES     BAITON     Order
GRO Reference: 1885  J Quarter in CHEPSTOW  Volume 11A  Page 2   Order
BEVAN, STANLEY  JOHN     BEVAN     Order
GRO Reference: 1886  D Quarter in GOWER  Volume 11A  Page 790

If anyone can help us we would be hugely grateful.

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Re: Stanley Bevan Born c 1884 Pontypridd
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 September 18 20:18 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Have you looked at the 1939 register to find his actual birth date?

Hopefully his marriage cert would give his father's name and occupation.

JJ

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Re: Stanley Bevan Born c 1884 Pontypridd
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 September 18 20:20 BST (UK) »
The marriage is on F M P.   Stanley was a Tin Plate Worker for Abertillery,  his father is listed as James Bevan -Tin Plate Worker and one of the witnesses  was Ivor Bevan

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Re: Stanley Bevan Born c 1884 Pontypridd
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 September 18 20:36 BST (UK) »
A likely looking Stanley in the 1891 census living at Crane Street, Trevethin with Pontypool, Pontypool, Monmouthshire

Father is James a tinplate furnaceman and mother Elizabeth

Registration district   Pontypool
Archive reference   RG12
Piece number   4361
Folio   8
Page   9

This is probably the parent's marriage:-

Marriages Mar 1885 

BEVAN    James        Pontypool    11a   162   
Rosser    Elizabeth        Pontypool    11a   162
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: Stanley Bevan Born c 1884 Pontypridd
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 September 18 20:37 BST (UK) »
Could this be Stanley and brother Ivor and family in 1901 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X918-6T9   Stanley was a "CATCHER" AT THE TIN PLATE

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Re: Stanley Bevan Born c 1884 Pontypridd
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 September 18 21:00 BST (UK) »
1891 details (found by Girl Guide)

James Bevan   25
Elizabeth Bevan   25
Stanley Bevan   6 birth record - q1 1885, Pontypool MMN - Rosser
Ethel Bevan   4 birth record q3 1887, Pontypool MMN - Rosser
Bertie Bevan   2q birth record 1 1889, Pontypool MMN - Rosser
James Bevan   2/12 Birth record - q1 1891, Pontypool MMN - Rosser (James Ivor Bevan)
William Bevan   brother 19
Ellen Bevan   mother 42

All ties in with the Bevan/Rosser marriage in 1885 (perhaps they married just before Stanley was born)

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Re: Stanley Bevan Born c 1884 Pontypridd
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 September 18 21:02 BST (UK) »
The only birth entry I can find for a Morgan W. Bevan in 1914 is in Mar.qtr. 1914 Pontypridd and has mmn as Paynter, not Price - the death for Morgan William Bevan in 1982 gives birthdate of 16/1/1914 which ties in with this birth entry. 

I am therefore confused that you say his mother was a Lily Price.

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Re: Stanley Bevan Born c 1884 Pontypridd
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 September 18 21:09 BST (UK) »
Have you bought (or discounted) the Pontypridd birth certificate - mother not named on the GRO - as you say you know itís where he was born? Just Pontypool, Chepstow and Abertillery are some way from Pontypridd. 

Edited: or do you have anything to place him in Pontypridd?
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Stanley Bevan Born c 1884 Pontypridd
« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 September 18 21:32 BST (UK) »
The only birth entry I can find for a Morgan W. Bevan in 1914 is in Mar.qtr. 1914 Pontypridd and has mmn as Paynter, not Price - the death for Morgan William Bevan in 1982 gives birthdate of 16/1/1914 which ties in with this birth entry. 

I am therefore confused that you say his mother was a Lily Price.

Annette

The GRO entry for that birth says Morgan Wyndham Bevan (not William).
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....