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HELP - Callaghan Family, Ireland (Edward, Catherine, Mary, John and Ellen)
« on: Saturday 29 September 18 14:08 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me find out more about this family when they were in Ireland:
Edward Callaghan (born abt. 1814, Ireland)
his wife Catherine McLarty (born abt. 1806, Ireland)
They had 3 children:
John Callaghan (B: abt. 1835, Ireland),
Mary Callaghan (B: abt. 1837, Ireland)
and Ellen/Helen Callaghan (B: abt. 1842, Ireland)
All this information comes from the 1851 census of them living at Cotton Mill Row, New Monkland, Lanarkshire, Scotland. They had 9 lodgers (all born in Ireland also) staying with them.
(In 1851 Edward is recorded as a labourer and in 1857 he is recorded on Ellen's marriage certificate as in the Navy)

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Re: HELP - Callaghan Family, Ireland (Edward, Catherine, Mary, John and Ellen)
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 30 September 18 14:36 BST (UK) »
The name McLarty is not showing any where in Ireland,could it be McCarty/McCarthy might help with searching

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Re: HELP - Callaghan Family, Ireland (Edward, Catherine, Mary, John and Ellen)
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 30 September 18 16:20 BST (UK) »
Perhaps her maiden name was McClarty?
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Re: HELP - Callaghan Family, Ireland (Edward, Catherine, Mary, John and Ellen)
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 30 September 18 19:11 BST (UK) »
I think the name was most likely McClarty, however on another record (the marriage of her daughter Ellen) the mother is recorded as "Catherine Bayls"  ???

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Re: HELP - Callaghan Family, Ireland (Edward, Catherine, Mary, John and Ellen)
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 October 18 19:58 BST (UK) »
McClarty is not to be be found in http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp
but is to be found in
1823-1837 Tithes Applotment Books based upon the index work of the Irish Genealogy Hub’s listing for each parish in Northern Ireland, these are all the entries i found

McClarty, Archd.-Townland: Curran and Drumalis Year: 1834-Larne-Antrim
McClarty, Archd.-Townland: Larne Gardens Year: 1834-Larne-Antrim

McClarty, Danl.-Townland: Savanagharry Year: 1826-Layd-Antrim
McClarty, James-Townland: Coskib Year: 1826-Layd-Antrim
McClarty, Widow Townland: Aughahaugh and Legflugh Year: 1826-Layd-Antrim

McClarty, John-Townland: Killyharne Year: 1825-Skerry-Antrim

but the Callaghans don’t match as easily
Calagan, D.-Townland : Ballymagarry Year: 1826-Shankill-Antrim
Calagan, D.-Townland: Ballymagarry Year: 1826-Belfast-Antrim
Calaghan, Patk.-Townland: Leminighmore Year: 1824-Ballintoy –Antrim
Callaghan, Arch.-Townland: Ballykenver Year: 1832-Armoy-Antrim 

moving to Griffiths Valuation for quick searches https://www.failteromhat.com/post1845.php
Mc Clarty   William   Coshkib   Layd   Antrim
Mc Clarty   John      Layd   Layd   Antrim
Mc Clarty   James   Layd   Layd   Antrim
Mc Clarty   George   Tavnagharry   Layd   Antrim
Mc Clarty   Daniel   Layd   Layd   Antrim
Callaghan   John      Ballyloughan   Ahoghill   Antrim
Callaghan   Samuel   Ballykenver   Armoy   Antrim
Callaghan   Samuel   Lemnagh Beg   Ballintoy   Antrim
Callaghan   John      Dunnyvadden   Ballyclug   Antrim
Callaghan   William   Tully   Ballyclug   Antrim
Callaghan   Daniel      Turfahun   Billy   Antrim
Callaghan   Alexander   Turfahun   Billy   Antrim
Callaghan   Charles   Turfahun   Billy   Antrim
Callaghan   Anne      Main Street,(Clogher North)   Billy   Antrim
Callaghan   Rose      St Brides,(North-East Division)   Carrickfergus   Antrim
Callaghan   John      High Street,Ballymena   Kirkinriola   Antrim
Callaghan   John      Bridewell Court,Ballymena   Kirkinriola   Antrim
Callaghan   John      Smithfield Townparks Neeson's Court Shankill   Antrim
Callaghan   Martha   St. George's Ward Townparks Brook Street Shankill   Antrim
Callaghan   Thomas   Smithfield Townparks Donaldson's Court   Shankill   Antrim
Callaghan   Thomas   Smithfield Townparks Donaldson's Court   Shankill   Antrim
Callaghan   Martha   St. George's Ward Townparks Brook Street   Shankill   Antrim
Callaghan   John      Smithfield Townparks Neeson's Court   Shankill   Antrim

so there might be more but we have established at least McClarty as a name in several records
however how do we move forward? any suggestions?
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Re: HELP - Callaghan Family, Ireland (Edward, Catherine, Mary, John and Ellen)
« Reply #5 on: Monday 01 October 18 20:05 BST (UK) »
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Re: HELP - Callaghan Family, Ireland (Edward, Catherine, Mary, John and Ellen)
« Reply #7 on: Monday 01 October 18 20:39 BST (UK) »
I think the name was most likely McClarty, however on another record (the marriage of her daughter Ellen) the mother is recorded as "Catherine Bayls"  ???

Is it possible to post a small clip with surrounding text for comparison as I'm wondering if this should be Boyle rather than Bayls?

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Re: HELP - Callaghan Family, Ireland (Edward, Catherine, Mary, John and Ellen)
« Reply #8 on: Monday 01 October 18 21:04 BST (UK) »
I’ve attached parts of the records - the first is for Ellen/Helen Callaghan’s marriage to Peter Marley in 1857 and then the second is part of her death record. Notice how the marriage record records Catherine as having the surname “Bayls” but on the death record for Ellen/Helen it says Catherine “McClarty”. There’s a possibility that the person recording the marriage got the names wrong as for Peter Marley (the man Ellen/Helen is marrying) his Mother’s name is recorded as “Larkin” when in all other records it is “Millarkey” (Malarkey)