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Re: Unusual annotation on 1939 Register
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 29 September 18 21:47 BST (UK) »
So was Joan’s birth registered as Joan M Beard, mmn Smith, Jun qtr 1933 Lambeth?

What does her birth certificate tell you about her birth parents?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Unusual annotation on 1939 Register
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 04 October 18 13:01 BST (UK) »
Thank you to everyone who has helped with my Nan's adoption family so far.  I apologise for not coming back to you all sooner.

I am actually waiting for my Nan's birth certificate to arrive.  I have ordered it through GRO just as a birth certificate and not as an adoptive record with birth certificate; guessing I ordered correctly?!

This has been a brick wall for a long time. The problem is Nan died in 2005, but when she was alive she didn't really talk about her natural parents or adoptive parents - the only thing we knew was that her Dad used to clean the clock face of Big Ben - think they used to call them Steeple Jacks?

Jenny
Smith, Hodgson, Beard, Hobby, Hyde

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Re: Unusual annotation on 1939 Register
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 04 October 18 13:46 BST (UK) »
Yes, that is the right way to order it.  If she was legally adopted it will be endorsed with the word Adopted in the right-hand margin, but will otherwise be just like any other birth certificate of the time.  It will not give any details of the adoption or the adoptive parents.

Do update when it arrives.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Unusual annotation on 1939 Register
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 27 October 18 23:06 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone!

I've finally received my Nan's birth certificate after all that time!

The certificate states Nan's father as William John Beard (a steel erector) and mother as Margaret Beard formerly Smith.

The strange thing is after speaking with my Mum about the name William, she remembered Nan used to talk about an Uncle Bill.  So I am guessing it was an informal adoption as the family allowed the real dad to visit my Nan, but under the guise of 'Uncle'.  This would certainly not be ethical these days - just sad to think Nan knew her Dad but only as her Uncle.

I need to try and move backwards from them now, but am struggling!

Jenny
Smith, Hodgson, Beard, Hobby, Hyde

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Re: Unusual annotation on 1939 Register
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 27 October 18 23:16 BST (UK) »
Possible marriage 4th qtr 1932 Lambeth 1d / 397
William J Beard to Margaret Smith
currently concentrating on NUTCHER & MARSHALL families, Hampshire.
and family of Thomas ANDERSON a Tailor of Perth, Scotland

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Re: Unusual annotation on 1939 Register
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 28 October 18 01:42 BST (UK) »
currently concentrating on NUTCHER & MARSHALL families, Hampshire.
and family of Thomas ANDERSON a Tailor of Perth, Scotland

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Re: Unusual annotation on 1939 Register
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 28 October 18 02:49 GMT (UK) »
Nan's father as William John Beard (a steel erector) and mother as Margaret Beard formerly Smith.

The strange thing is after speaking with my Mum about the name William, she remembered Nan used to talk about an Uncle Bill.  So I am guessing it was an informal adoption as the family allowed the real dad to visit my Nan, but under the guise of 'Uncle'.

I need to try and move backwards from them now, but am struggling!

Would the next step not be to buy the marriage cert. for W J Beard & Margaret Smith?

When did Margaret Smith Beard die, soon after the birth of Joan?

Did W J Beard remarry hence being known as 'uncle'?

Lots to look at I think?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Unusual annotation on 1939 Register
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 28 October 18 03:01 GMT (UK) »
OP is also posting here

http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/topic17361-20.html

Pity this wasn't shared previously as it would have saved a lot of people time & effort researching info. already known?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Unusual annotation on 1939 Register
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 28 October 18 10:06 GMT (UK) »
OP is also posting here

http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/topic17361-20.html

Pity this wasn't shared previously as it would have saved a lot of people time & effort researching info. already known?

Annie

Agreed - though on this occasion it looks as though we sorted things out on here first, so the time spent duplicating effort was of the people on the other site.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)