Unusual annotation on 1939 Register

[avm228]

So was Joan’s birth registered as Joan M Beard, mmn Smith, Jun qtr 1933 Lambeth?

What does her birth certificate tell you about her birth parents?

[Jenburd]

Thank you to everyone who has helped with my Nan's adoption family so far.  I apologise for not coming back to you all sooner.

I am actually waiting for my Nan's birth certificate to arrive.  I have ordered it through GRO just as a birth certificate and not as an adoptive record with birth certificate; guessing I ordered correctly?!

This has been a brick wall for a long time. The problem is Nan died in 2005, but when she was alive she didn't really talk about her natural parents or adoptive parents - the only thing we knew was that her Dad used to clean the clock face of Big Ben - think they used to call them Steeple Jacks?

Jenny

[avm228]

Yes, that is the right way to order it.  If she was legally adopted it will be endorsed with the word Adopted in the right-hand margin, but will otherwise be just like any other birth certificate of the time.  It will not give any details of the adoption or the adoptive parents.

Do update when it arrives.

[Jenburd]

Hi everyone!

I've finally received my Nan's birth certificate after all that time!

The certificate states Nan's father as William John Beard (a steel erector) and mother as Margaret Beard formerly Smith.

The strange thing is after speaking with my Mum about the name William, she remembered Nan used to talk about an Uncle Bill.  So I am guessing it was an informal adoption as the family allowed the real dad to visit my Nan, but under the guise of 'Uncle'.  This would certainly not be ethical these days - just sad to think Nan knew her Dad but only as her Uncle.

I need to try and move backwards from them now, but am struggling!

Jenny

[mckha489]

Possible marriage 4th qtr 1932 Lambeth 1d / 397
William J Beard to Margaret Smith

[mckha489]

OP is also posting here

http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/topic17361-20.html

[Rosinish]

Nan's father as William John Beard (a steel erector) and mother as Margaret Beard formerly Smith.

The strange thing is after speaking with my Mum about the name William, she remembered Nan used to talk about an Uncle Bill.  So I am guessing it was an informal adoption as the family allowed the real dad to visit my Nan, but under the guise of 'Uncle'.

I need to try and move backwards from them now, but am struggling!

Would the next step not be to buy the marriage cert. for W J Beard & Margaret Smith?

When did Margaret Smith Beard die, soon after the birth of Joan?

Did W J Beard remarry hence being known as 'uncle'?

Lots to look at I think?

Annie

[Rosinish]

OP is also posting here

http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/topic17361-20.html

Pity this wasn't shared previously as it would have saved a lot of people time & effort researching info. already known?

Annie

[avm228]

OP is also posting here

http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/topic17361-20.html

Pity this wasn't shared previously as it would have saved a lot of people time & effort researching info. already known?

Annie

Agreed - though on this occasion it looks as though we sorted things out on here first, so the time spent duplicating effort was of the people on the other site.