James Deacon in Berkshire conundrum

[Annette7]

There is no way Amos b.1833 is the son of James Deacon and Sarah Harris - she died 1837 and shown born 1776 i.e. would have been 57 when Amos was born.

So the 15 children shown as theirs on the FindAGrave website is clearly incorrect.

I then checked all the baptisms and we have 2 James and Sarah's - James (bc.1772, is a Carpenter and at one point parish clerk) with wife Sarah bc.1776, d.1837 and the other James is a Lab. bc.1787 with wife Sarah bc.1791, d.1840.

James the carpenter is the one who married Sarah Harris 1799 and their children are:

James bp.1800
Isaac bp.1803
William bp.1805
Charles bp.1807
Abraham bp.1809
Jacob bp.1810
Mary bp.1812
Joseph bp.1813
Mary Ann bp.1815
Cornelius bp.1817
Richard bp.1821

From 1813 the baptisms show fathers occupation and those above show father as carpenter.

James the Lab. and wife Sarah had (at East Ilsley):

William 1815
James 1817
Martha 1819
Ann 1821
Thomas 1824
Henry 1827
John 1829  )both baptised
Jesse 1829 )9/8/1829
Amos 1833


No idea who James the Lab.'s wife Sarah was I'm afraid.

Annette

   

[innerspark]

so, a general question...why are there errors among different sources?

I understand that ages in censuses vary, so why does the findagrave site list Henry and Amos as children? when it is quite likely that they have different parents.


This investigation stems from a marriage between William Deacon and Mary Ann Deacon, they both share the grandparents - James and Sarah.

William and Mary Ann have a son Joseph Butler Deacon b.1874, the GRO says his mother's maiden name is Deacon.

William's father is Jacob b.1810 to James and Sarah
Mary Ann's father is Joseph b.1813 to James and Sarah

[rosie99]

so, a general question...why are there errors among different sources?

The information on findagrave is 'fiction' needing confirmation, a bit like someones online tree without source information.  It is not information taken from the gravestone.

[innerspark]

Thank you Annette, that clarifies a few things. For some reason I was unable to find the baptism records

Rosie99 - thanks, I need to bear that in mind - unless I see factual evidence like a gravestone.

[Annette7]

The baptism records I viewed are on FindMyPast.

Annette

[rosie99]

Thank you Annette, that clarifies a few things. For some reason I was unable to find the baptism records

I had already posted the information reply 9 regarding occupations of father on baptisms

[Pheno]

Pheno - yes that makes sense. So it is likely that Ann and Henry who appear on the 1841 Census are part of the same family. Although they Ann, Henry, Jesse and Amos are listed in christening records on FindMyPast and family search with the parents - James and Sarah.

I think I am getting a bit clearer -
James 1. b. 1772 m.Sarah Harris 1779 d.1850

James 2. b.1787 m. Sarah Vellewise 1805 or Sarah Stanmore 1809
 d.1874

then children - Ann, Henry, Jesse and Amos are James 2 and Sarah or James 2 and second wife Hannah

Not quite and I think Annette has addressed this in the interim.  James2 only married Hannah in 1849 and their first and only child is Martha born 1850.

Pheno

[innerspark]

Sorry Rosie, I did see that...trying to keep up with it all and understand it. Thank you for your help.

[Sloe Gin]

I can probably help with this.  The Deacons were a prolific East Ilsley family, and there were three James Deacons listed in the 1831 Notes On Parishioners, see
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=459879.0

Deacon, James          
Clerk*. Married, journeyman carpenter), both good characters.

Bpt. 5 Apr 1772, s/o Crispin & Jane.  Married Sarah Harris 2 Nov 1799.  Bd. 17 Oct 1850 aged 78.
Sarah Harris bpt. 1 Apr 1775, d/o Robert & Mary.  Bd. 29 Jan 1837 aged 61.
*James Deacon was the Parish Clerk and his name often appears as a witness in the parish register.
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Deacon, James  (son of the above)     
Keeper to Mr. Williams. 3 girls, 1 boy. Very fair character, wife a blunt manner but fair character.

Bpt. 14 Sep 1800, s/o James & Sarah.  Married Elizabeth Hearne 25 Nov 1822.  Bd. 6 Dec 1882 aged 82.
Elizabeth Hearne bpt. 24 Feb 1804, d/o David & Sarah.  Bd. 16 Mar 1868 aged 65.
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Deacon, James          
Gardener.  5 boys, 3 girls. Very decent character, works hard for his family.

Bpt. 15 Apr 1787, s/o William* & Elizabeth.  Married (1) Sarah, (2) Hannah Binham (b. Mixbury) 18 Feb 1849.  Bd. 20 Jun 1874 aged 87.
Sarah was bd. 18 Aug 1840 aged 49.

*William was a brother of James Deacon senior - parents Crispin & Jane.  So the two younger James Deacons were first cousins.

The comments in italics are the curate's notes!  The children mentioned would be those living at home when he made his little census.
The baptism/marriage/burial dates are all from East Ilsley PRs.

I can probably sort out their respective children from the PRs.  Does this help?