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Re: John Bent of Leicester Forest?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 11 October 18 21:48 BST (UK) »
Ah yes sorry must have accidentally wrote 1783 instead of 1793.

I’ll have a look at the Deacon line and see if I can perhaps link to mine.

It’s possible your Faulks are connected to my Fowkes. They were only in Elmesthorpe and Barwell so not too far from Earl Shilton.
Richard Dudley of Cosby. Gent
George Bent of Cosby. Gent
William Black of Kilby. Gent
Bernard Cotton of Dadlington. Esq
Sir Thomas Halford of Wistow. Bart
Richard Swynfen of Sutton Cheney. Gent
John Cotes of Aylestone. Gent
John Freeston of East Norton. Gent
Sir John Bernard of Abington.
Edward Shuckburgh of Naseby. Esq
Richard Worsley of Deeping. Esq
Thomas Hobson of Glen. Gent
John Grant of Stretton Parva. Gent
John Miles of Heanley Hall. Gent
Thomas Dabridgecourt. Esq
Sir Clement Edmondes

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 12 October 18 23:46 BST (UK) »
Had a look at your Faulks line. It does seem to change to Fowkes further back but I cant see a definite record set for John Fowkes father of Francis born 1744 Market Bosworth.
Richard Dudley of Cosby. Gent
George Bent of Cosby. Gent
William Black of Kilby. Gent
Bernard Cotton of Dadlington. Esq
Sir Thomas Halford of Wistow. Bart
Richard Swynfen of Sutton Cheney. Gent
John Cotes of Aylestone. Gent
John Freeston of East Norton. Gent
Sir John Bernard of Abington.
Edward Shuckburgh of Naseby. Esq
Richard Worsley of Deeping. Esq
Thomas Hobson of Glen. Gent
John Grant of Stretton Parva. Gent
John Miles of Heanley Hall. Gent
Thomas Dabridgecourt. Esq
Sir Clement Edmondes

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Re: John Bent of Leicester Forest?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 13 October 18 23:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks MrDudley

It's sometimes strange how coincidences occur when researching one's family. There have been so many in mine. My father was born in Northamptonshire but moved to Leicester after his father died and I was born there. I subsequently went to school in Mkt. Bosworth, mentioned in your post. When I started looking into my family I found that my King ancestors on my maternal side who also lived in Leicester go back to Mkt. Bosworth by way of Nuneaton. They also spent time in Sutton Cheney.

In your tree you have interests in Cottingham and my maternal grandfather was born there before moving to Leicester.

We referred to the Deacons of Fleckney and my brother in law was born and bred in that village before moving south.

It is indeed a small world!

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 14 October 18 17:47 BST (UK) »
Hello Tony

Could you please give me the info on Elizabeth Deacon/Cotton and I can set my eyes upon it to see if I can solve it? Birthdates/Marriages etc
Richard Dudley of Cosby. Gent
George Bent of Cosby. Gent
William Black of Kilby. Gent
Bernard Cotton of Dadlington. Esq
Sir Thomas Halford of Wistow. Bart
Richard Swynfen of Sutton Cheney. Gent
John Cotes of Aylestone. Gent
John Freeston of East Norton. Gent
Sir John Bernard of Abington.
Edward Shuckburgh of Naseby. Esq
Richard Worsley of Deeping. Esq
Thomas Hobson of Glen. Gent
John Grant of Stretton Parva. Gent
John Miles of Heanley Hall. Gent
Thomas Dabridgecourt. Esq
Sir Clement Edmondes


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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 14 October 18 17:51 BST (UK) »
Yes my 9th grt grandfather was Thomas Billings, Gent c1655-1732 He had the Social standing and Occupation of a Gentleman in his own right and was also Gentleman Servant/Personal Assistant to John Dove Esq of Bury House, Cottingham. Not sure if he was born Dingley, Northamptonshire or Cadeby, Leic around 1655.
Richard Dudley of Cosby. Gent
George Bent of Cosby. Gent
William Black of Kilby. Gent
Bernard Cotton of Dadlington. Esq
Sir Thomas Halford of Wistow. Bart
Richard Swynfen of Sutton Cheney. Gent
John Cotes of Aylestone. Gent
John Freeston of East Norton. Gent
Sir John Bernard of Abington.
Edward Shuckburgh of Naseby. Esq
Richard Worsley of Deeping. Esq
Thomas Hobson of Glen. Gent
John Grant of Stretton Parva. Gent
John Miles of Heanley Hall. Gent
Thomas Dabridgecourt. Esq
Sir Clement Edmondes

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Re: John Bent of Leicester Forest?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 14 October 18 20:44 BST (UK) »
Hello Tony

Could you please give me the info on Elizabeth Deacon/Cotton and I can set my eyes upon it to see if I can solve it? Birthdates/Marriages etc

All such offers gratefully received

21 Feb 1831 Charles Vines married Elizabeth Coton spinster at St Mary de Castro Leicester. A witness was Ann Deacon. Interestingly a small contemporary newspaper mention described her as "Mrs. Cotton" - different spelling and status.
1 Sep 1828 William Coton married Elizabeth Deacon at All Saints Leicester. A witness was Ann Deacon.The other was Maltby Coton.
It is possible that William Coton died between the two dates but I cannot find his death.

Charles and Elizabeth had a family but didn't seem to worry too much about baptisms or civil registration until 1842 when Sophia Vines was born and registered. Her mother's maiden name was Deacon on the GRO.

1841 census. The family are in Uppingham and Elizabeth's rounded age is given as 35 (1806)
1851 census. They are back in Leicester and Elizabeth's age is given as 47 (1804). Born in Kilby
1853 Charles dies. Maybe Elizabeth can now be truthful about her real age.
1861 census. Elizabeth is in Leicester and gives her age as 61 (1800). Born in Kilby
1867 Jan. Elizabeth dies and her age is registered as 68 (1799).

2 Jun 1805. Baptism in Wigston Magna of Elizabeth Deacon d/o Robert & Jane
5 Jun 1805. Burial in Wigston Magna of Elizabeth Deacon
1808 Baptism of Elizabeth Deacon d/o Robert & Anne

That's all I have and everything is contradictory as you can see.

Thanks in advance for your help

Tony
 

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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 14 October 18 21:29 BST (UK) »
In 1841 a William Deacon and his wife and Child are also living with Elizabeth and Charles.
He is married to Ann Peckbourn Cramant and born about 1816-1820. He is a younger brother of Elizabeth.
On his marriage his father is listed as Joseph Deacon, Hawker.
A Joseph Deacon, Framework Knitter dies 1835 Leicester and in his will he states my 7 children - Sophia Rider, ELIZABETH VINES, Sarah Hodgson, Mary Hardy, James Deacon, Ann Deacon, William Deacon. Also lists his Wife Hannah Deacon. These are Elizabeth's parents -
Joseph Deacon marries Hannah Norton 15 Jan 1799 Kilby, Leic.
There are no childrens baptisms after this date for a Joseph and Hannah so they either didnt baptise, are non conformist or the records were damaged or not transcribed.
Given the Location. A most likely baptism for Joseph is Joseph Deacon 1772 Fleckney son of John Deacon and Ann Fletcher who were my 6th grt grandparents.
Richard Dudley of Cosby. Gent
George Bent of Cosby. Gent
William Black of Kilby. Gent
Bernard Cotton of Dadlington. Esq
Sir Thomas Halford of Wistow. Bart
Richard Swynfen of Sutton Cheney. Gent
John Cotes of Aylestone. Gent
John Freeston of East Norton. Gent
Sir John Bernard of Abington.
Edward Shuckburgh of Naseby. Esq
Richard Worsley of Deeping. Esq
Thomas Hobson of Glen. Gent
John Grant of Stretton Parva. Gent
John Miles of Heanley Hall. Gent
Thomas Dabridgecourt. Esq
Sir Clement Edmondes

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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 14 October 18 22:01 BST (UK) »
Wow! That was quick.

I had spent some time trying to relate the William Deacon to Elizabeth and had found the marriage (I recall in Oadby?). Are you able to PM me on this please or alternatively tell me your source for the will?

If your assumption about the parentage of Joseph Deacon is correct that would make us 5th cousins 2x removed. Probably time to take this chat offline via PM?

Tony